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[PaulMc]

The two original threads were;

Conan as a Cable Series

The Bible (under, Conan on Film) (which, should have been, at least, "Writers' Bible for a Conan cable t.v. Series")

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Any online Conan Bible/Guide discussion should probably go under whatever thread they already have - if they have one.

Otherwise, the discussions were supposed to be on-topic about a CONAN CABLE SERIES WRITERS BIBLE, as part of the general "Conan as a Cable series" discussion.

[Scott Oden]

For example, the books written by Martin are the "Bible" for Game of Thrones, the books written by Tolkein are Jackson's Bible for the LotR movies. It's just a metaphor.

Actually, there IS a series bible for Game of Thrones (and it's not the books), but LOTR would not have had a series bible, but a continuity bible -- different animal, altogether.

A series bible is the document writers of a series use to familiarize themselves with the world of the series. It contains a "mission statement", format information, plot synopses of the episodes, character bios and assorted essays or glossaries. For example, the 4th season bible for the new Battlestar: Galactica contained essays on how the show's SF technology was supposed to work, techno-babble, Cylon culture, etc., as well as the standard synopses/bios.

A Conan series bible might have The Hyborian Age essay, bibliography, essays that would help writers capture the feel of REH, and synopses and character bios. The LOOK of a show is not contained in a bible, as far as I know. That's the purview of the production designer, set designers, costumers, etc.

Hope this helps!

Scott

[monk]

http://collections.r...166&r=2&t=4&x=1


obviously this was studied by those responsible for delivering the goods in Game of Thrones.

[Gin-Wulf]

if you were gonna true to towards word as in looks then people will have tp get use to seeing conan in short wide legged breeches instead of a loincloth.
and the whole debate on his hair style because honestly to me square cut doesn't mean the bangs people seem to love, its not gonna look like JM conan hair but i think those frazette bangs are crom awful .

Edited by Gin-Wulf, 31 August 2011 - 03:16 AM.

[monk]

Excerpt from Queen of the Black Coast

"Let them rave," grinned the swordsman hardily. "Do you keep her on
her course, master steersman."

The master descended from the small deck between the bows, made his
way between the rows of oarsmen, and mounted the middeck. The
stranger stood there with his back to the mast, eyes narrowed alertly,
sword ready. The shipman eyed him steadily, careful not to make any
move toward the long knife in his belt. He saw a tall powerfully built
figure in a black scale-mail hauberk, burnished greaves and a blue-
steel helmet from which jutted bull's horns highly polished. From the
mailed shoulders fell the scarlet cloak, blowing in the sea-wind. A
broad shagreen belt with a golden buckle held the scabbard of the
broadsword he bore. Under the horned helmet a square-cut black mane
contrasted with smoldering blue eyes.

scale mail.

other images:





Roman Pattern



another set of historical battle axes:

[monk]

Excerpt from Phoenix on the Sword
"Watch the door, five of you!" screamed Ascalante, dancing about the
edge of the singing steel whirlpool, for he feared that Conan might
smash through their midst and escape. The rogues drew back
momentarily, as their leader seized several and thrust them toward the
single door, and in that brief respite Conan leaped to the wall and
tore therefrom an ancient battle-ax which, untouched by time, had hung
there for half a century.

With his back to the wall he faced the closing ring for a flashing
instant, then leaped into the thick of them. He was no defensive
fighter; even in the teeth of overwhelming odds he always carried the
war to the enemy. Any other man would have already died there, and
Conan himself did not hope to survive, but he did ferociously wish to
inflict as much damage as he could before he fell. His barbaric soul
was ablaze, and the chants of old heroes were singing in his ears.

As he sprang from the wall his ax dropped an outlaw with a severed
shoulder, and the terrible backhand return crushed the skull of
another. Swords whined venomously about him, but death passed him by
breathless margins. The Cimmerian moved in, a blur of blinding speed.
He was like a tiger among baboons as he leaped, side-stepped and spun,
offering an ever-moving target, while his ax wove a shining wheel of
death about him.

For a brief space the assassins crowded him fiercely, raining blows
blindly and hampered by their own numbers; then they gave back
suddenly--two corpses on the floor gave mute evidence of the king's
fury, though Conan himself was bleeding from wounds on arm, neck and
legs.

"Knaves!" screamed Rinaldo, dashing off his feathered cap, his wild
eyes glaring. "Do ye shrink from the combat? Shall the despot live?
Out on it!"

He rushed in, hacking madly, but Conan, recognizing him, shattered his
sword with a short terrific chop and with a powerful push of his open
hand sent him reeling to the floor. The king took Ascalante's point in
his left arm, and the outlaw barely saved his life by ducking and
springing backward from the swinging ax. Again the wolves swirled in
and Conan's ax sang and crushed. A hairy rascal stooped beneath its
stroke and dived at the king's legs, but after wrestling for a brief
instant at what seemed a solid iron tower, glanced up in time to see
the ax falling, but not in time to avoid it. In the interim one of his
comrades lifted a broadsword with both hands and hewed through the
king's left shoulderplate, wounding the shoulder beneath. In an
instant Conan's cuirass was full of blood.

various battle axes:

[theagenes]

I know that; we now have two separate discussions going on. I'm not sure how it helps either.

I think there was some confusion about what should be posted where and what should be merged with what. But now the common thread running through these discussions is what future creators should do with a Conan project. Story arc structure, having a "Bible," props, costumes, etc---these are specific suggestions (and many could apply to a future film as well as a tv series) rather than generalities like the Advice to Paradox thread. Maybe a thread title change to something broader would useful and more appropriate. Maybe something like "What Should a Future Conan Film/Series Look Like?" Just a suggestion.

[monk]

this could also help out a lot of the artists handling the Darkhorse work.

[Kortoso]

I know that; we now have two separate discussions going on. I'm not sure how it helps either.

I think there was some confusion about what should be posted where and what should be merged with what. But now the common thread running through these discussions is what future creators should do with a Conan project. Story arc structure, having a "Bible," props, costumes, etc---these are specific suggestions (and many could apply to a future film as well as a tv series) rather than generalities like the Advice to Paradox thread. Maybe a thread title change to something broader would useful and more appropriate. Maybe something like "What Should a Future Conan Film/Series Look Like?" Just a suggestion.

There are tons of concerns regarding the various cable options, but I don't think we have a chance to discuss them with all these battle axes, which IMHO belong in the Hyrkanian Steel forum.

[Almuric]

I would also include a brief guide to the historical eras which inspired the Hyborian Age, with notes on what garb and names would be appropriate, as well as a list of things to avoid: Aquiromans, Pictafarians, et al.

[Gin-Wulf]

as for garb after seeing the films reading the comics and reading REH as well as listening to them at work on audio book. and there is a great page here on this forum about the looks as described by REH . take conan in beyond the black river, he had leather boots short silk breeches(shorts) and sleeveless chain mail , with the classic conan helmet with short bulls horns, even as king he wore short leather breeches. so instead of the lion cloth or kilt we keep seeing him in , would people be ok with him in those things?
http://www.conan.com...?showtopic=8984
more often than not it seems he is in shorts
tho i would have liked the new out fit if it was all a red great kilt instead of the two piece leather one.

Edited by Gin-Wulf, 01 September 2011 - 12:37 AM.

[monk]

I think Freebooter? compiled a list of all his outfits, by story...

[Amra_the_Lion]

I think Freebooter? compiled a list of all his outfits, by story...

The Chronicles Of Conan The Cimmerian

There is a description from every Conan story directly from Howard quotes and at the end there is a description of all of his weapons by story and all of his armor by story.

[monk]

I think Freebooter? compiled a list of all his outfits, by story...

The Chronicles Of Conan The Cimmerian

There is a description from every Conan story directly from Howard quotes and at the end there is a description of all of his weapons by story and all of his armor by story.

that's what I'm talking about. will definitely check that out.

[deuce]

All of the posts regarding the "look" or "production/props bible" for a cable series (and associated gripes) have been split/moved to this thread from the original "Conan Cable Series". Despite the thread title, discussions about the non-visual/literary contents of any "series bible/guide" are quite welcome and on-topic.

[Ironhand]

There was a brief period of about a decade, early in the 16th or 17th century, when male attire included something like breeks. Sorry, I can't provide references for this; it was something I picked up in a lecture many years ago. Breeks for Conan would have looked and fitted something like in modern basketball uniforms.

Edited by Ironhand, 24 November 2012 - 06:11 AM.

[ollonois]

reference book the Del Reys, the stories, the drafts, fragments and of course the essays by Patrice Louinet but what about Conan: the ultimate guide about the world's most savage barbarian by Roy Thomas?

Edited by ollonois, 05 December 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[gungnir_1972]

I have mentioned Vladmir Kulich for Conan before and I just saw the preview for a new series called Vikings on the History channel..I know Conan is no Viking but this show looks really good to me.I'd like to see a Conan show with the same kind of production values.Everyone including myself throw Game of Thrones and Spartacus out there,this series looks to be an adddition to that list.

[deuce]

I have mentioned Vladmir Kulich for Conan before and I just saw the preview for a new series called Vikings on the History channel..I know Conan is no Viking but this show looks really good to me.I'd like to see a Conan show with the same kind of production values.Everyone including myself throw Game of Thrones and Spartacus out there,this series looks to be an adddition to that list.

Cool! I dig ol' Vlad. Have to keep an eye out for that series. Is it fictional/non-historical? I would assume so. Thanks for the heads-up.

Sounds like you need to start a new thread.

[deuce]

reference book the Del Reys, the stories, the drafts, fragments and of course the essays by Patrice Louinet but what about Conan: the ultimate guide about the world's most savage barbarian by Roy Thomas?

Don't most of the pics in that book show Conan in a "fur diaper/banana-hammock"?