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[SlavicPaladin]

I think Conan would have been more that at home here:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gAIAkRdJ2Go

I really want to try this.

Ps. Am I the only one who could imagine those Filipino specops guys as modern Conans?

Edited by SlavicPaladin, 21 April 2013 - 11:34 PM.

[droc]

Every culture has its own indigenous style of martial arts. The most effective tend to be those that include some real speed sparring or competition, so muay thai and boxing, for example, are usually more effective that forms of karate that depend on light-touch or kata as their main competitive outlets.

 

Kali is fairly unique in that it's a system of fighting with weapons that includes full speed work, and so has remained a very effective system.

 

As for the spec-ops guys being modern day Conans, well Conan was unique even among his own people, so I don't think I'd go that far. But due to their military training and their focus on bladed weapons, I could definitely agree that they're probably the closest thing we have to a soldier from the Hyborian age.

 

DROC

[RobP]

We ran a Blade Day last weekend, pulling together some drills and exercises from a range of sword styles and ending with some sparring for fun. One of the lads bought in a claymore which was....satisfying...to use       

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DQ_l_erJaVU

 

 

 

Edited by RobP, 22 April 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[droc]

Looks like a fun day, nice to see variation in the weapons used. Great sledgehammer work and I like the dissociation stuff. It wouldn't take long to build forearms, shoulders and traps like Conan swinging that Claymore around.

 

DROC

[Munthasem]

This stuff is great. If you want to see some really bad ass muay thai workouts, not involving some fancy modern equipment, find any training related video of Buakaw Banchamek or easier to fing Buakaw Por Pramuk. The guy's not a Conanesque figure, but viry, fast as **** wrecking machine and does some incredibly intensive workouts, involving a lot of punching, kicking, bodyweight strength stuff and so on.

[droc]

I love watching Buakaw Por Pramuk's fights, his kicks are horrible.

 

DROC

[Arthyron]

I think Conan would have been more that at home here:

I really want to try this.

Ps. Am I the only one who could imagine those Filipino specops guys as modern Conans?

 

We ran a Blade Day last weekend, pulling together some drills and exercises from a range of sword styles and ending with some sparring for fun. One of the lads bought in a claymore which was....satisfying...to use      

Nice, good to see some of the Russian bladework being taught, Rob, I feel like it isn't practiced enough. Interestingly enough, my Systema instructor comes from a Filipino background. The synthesis of Filipino and Russian bladework is nightmarish, definitely Hyborian-level brutality and efficiency:



Maybe we're off-topic here, though, wasn't there a martial arts discussion thread, having trouble finding it?

[Munthasem]

But martial arts work is also a good base for strength development. Just for example, try not to do any strength work but wrestle someone on a daily basis for a year. just all out technique and strength drills like pulling and pushing one another around, lifting, rolling on the mat and so on. Especially if that someone is heavier or considerably stronger than you. You definitelly will gain some good amounts of strength. I know a guy who is a tae kwon do instructor and he did some ninjutsu and ringen (a form of medieval wrestling), medieval swordfighting and stuff like that. Besides some bodyweight strength stuff he didn't lift weights but is incredibly viry although he doesn't look that strong at first glimpse. On the other hand some street workout guys I know and few of them did oly gymnastics as kids, you can see every vein and muscle fieber visibe, but they are not sculpted for show but more of a sideeffect of training, food and rest. the irony is that most of the guys who spent months and years in the gyms trying to sculpt themselves are left jaw dropping eye popping when some of them removes his shirt, plus they do some stuff like extremely slowly pull ups, muscle ups, front and back levers and all these which many average gym rats cannot even play with.

Edited by Munthasem, 24 April 2013 - 10:57 AM.

[Aesir Vagabond]

I agree that martial arts practice can build a degree of strength specific to that particular arts movements. Grappling though does seem to produce a whole body effect, when we roll at my JKD club I feel it all over the next day, same as when I was at a BJJ club. Has anyone here looked into the revivals of medieval and renaissance martial arts? There is some really cool stuff in that scene, it is interesting how much grappling becomes involved in  blade work when both combatants are fully armored.

[SlavicPaladin]

Whew, working out and bodybuilding are disciplines of the mind almost as much as they are of the body. So much is to be learned about training and eating properly. The stereotype of the brain dead athlete must be largely crap, or so I have realized  I have been studying training and eating methods and why they work or don't work, and seeing everything I've been doing wrong or inefficiently makes me want  to hit the gym with new found vigor with my new knowledge. There really is a learning curve with fitness, and tonight I am riding it.  I am excited for the summer, because I hope to pick up some new outdoor and physical activities that I have always wanted to do, but were afraid to because I knew I wasn't active enough to handle it. I'm still in pretty poor shape, but I feel that just being on the path has given me such a better outlook on life. Anyhow, I'm rambling. 

[Aesir Vagabond]

There are certainly better and worse ways to work out. I have seen several good friends end up with lasting injuries by over training or bad form. Squats are one of the main culprits I see, too many people do them with bad form and your knees and back are not something you want to take any chances with. Are you lifting or just getting more physically active in general?

[droc]

Whew, working out and bodybuilding are disciplines of the mind almost as much as they are of the body. So much is to be learned about training and eating properly. The stereotype of the brain dead athlete must be largely crap, or so I have realized  I have been studying training and eating methods and why they work or don't work, and seeing everything I've been doing wrong or inefficiently makes me want  to hit the gym with new found vigor with my new knowledge. There really is a learning curve with fitness, and tonight I am riding it.  I am excited for the summer, because I hope to pick up some new outdoor and physical activities that I have always wanted to do, but were afraid to because I knew I wasn't active enough to handle it. I'm still in pretty poor shape, but I feel that just being on the path has given me such a better outlook on life. Anyhow, I'm rambling. 

 

Great work, keep it up. A lot of guys don't make that effort to learn how to train properly, and as Aesir says the result is usually injuries and some pretty bad wear and tear on your joints.

 

Just be careful of where you're getting your information, there's A LOT of bullshit out there.

 

DROC