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#1121 droc

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 02:28 PM

Gymnasticbodies is a great site. Coach Sommer (I think) put out a great book called Building the Gymnastic Body. It's fantastic for bodyweight training. I think he's affiliated with Crossfit too, he's their Gymnastics expert, like Rippetoe was their Power Lifting expert for a while.

As for the Bartendaz and stuff, the guys are strong, no doubt. But a lot of what they do is technique and doesn't transfer that well to other activities. It's still really cool though.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 06:40 PM

Just to add, these gymnastic exercises are killers. Insane hard at some points but thickens your muscles to the point of an imploding star. Man, just five or six sets of 20 reps per set at some wierd angles, can tear you apart, but even after your first workout you can feel the ooze of muscle density like nothing else can give you.

Had to chop my training to 4 days per week to survive it. ;-)
?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in an attractive and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:49 PM

Here's something for speeding up recovery time:
http://www.livestron...uscle-recovery/

For athletes, fast muscle recovery translates to increased stamina, a healthy body and, ultimately, better performance. As a result, many amateur and professional sports enthusiasts use ice to help repair their tired muscles after strenuous training sessions. Depending on which muscles you've used and personal preference, an ice bath, extremely cold water and ice packs may all benefit your recovery.


I think Conan wouldn't mind sitting in some ice for a while. ;)

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 09:41 PM




One problem with planning to do a routine for two years like that is "what if you get sick or injured, and have to lay off for a week or two?" That can throw an extremely gradual buildup way off. That's like going on a diet and only losing a pound a week or something. It's too easy to lose months of work that way, IMO.


muscles do need time to "repair=grow"... having them in costant heavy stress ,unless under expert surveillance/guidance (for both diet and workout) isn't that beneficent...maybe it's just my impression but i always thought to be gaining, when every 5-6 weeks i just stoped whatever exercise for a week..can anyone confirm =/= reject this ?



Well guys like George Hackenschmidt would do the same exercise 5-sometimes six days a week,without overtraining and build big muscles and loads of strength their sercret was not lifting to their max weight and not training to failure .


Yup, I don't get where the idea of training to failure all the time came from. I guess it works for forcing muscle growth, but it's pretty counter productive if you wanna be able to use that muscle and the damage you're doing all the time is horrific.

Train heavy, sure, fall down at the end of each and every training session, ridiculous.


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I think constistant training to failure is why so many bodybuilders are consistantly overtraining.


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Posted 25 October 2011 - 06:25 PM

Some of mma guys does some ice baths after a hard training session. In scandinavian countries people visits sauna and than jumps into the cold lakes. I remember a fottage of Wanderlei Silva and Tito Ortiz getting into the barrels of ice after some hard workouts, Vasily Alexeyev, one of the best oly lifters ever, lifted weights standing in the Don river up to his chest. Fedor Emelianenko also trained outside without his shirt and many others. I've tried some of it years ago but somewhat I prefer doing it clothed.
?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in an attractive and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming?.. WOO HOO?. What a RIDE!?

- Indian Larry Desmedt -
R.I.P. 1949. - 2004.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 10:13 PM

Not to drag this too far off-topic, but Wikipedia has come up with some good entries relevant to this recently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_bath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_bath_therapy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_swimming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dousing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tummo

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:51 AM

Ice Baths are a great way to help recovery. There's also some research being done into cooling certain parts of the body, such as the arms in boxing between rounds, to speed up recovery.

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:58 PM

Ice Baths are a great way to help recovery. There's also some research being done into cooling certain parts of the body, such as the arms in boxing between rounds, to speed up recovery.

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I was freinds with soemone on myspace back when they had groups that mentioned cold waterbathing.But that was back before Myspace destroyed itself.


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Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:02 PM

Great video on stone lifting.


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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:55 AM

Here's a treat for all of strongman training fans. Magnus Samuelsson. A genuine Viking. A 6 foot 7, 344 pounds of power.


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?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
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but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
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screaming?.. WOO HOO?. What a RIDE!?

- Indian Larry Desmedt -
R.I.P. 1949. - 2004.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:59 AM



?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in an attractive and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming?.. WOO HOO?. What a RIDE!?

- Indian Larry Desmedt -
R.I.P. 1949. - 2004.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:59 AM


?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in an attractive and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming?.. WOO HOO?. What a RIDE!?

- Indian Larry Desmedt -
R.I.P. 1949. - 2004.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:56 PM

Magnus is one of my favourite Strongmen of all time, so much intensity and Charisma. From back in the day I was a big fan of Geoff Capes and Gary Taylor, Manfred Hoeberl was quite the competitor and everyone loves Pudz. And there's Zydrunas Savickas', what incredible pressing power.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 04:58 PM

Ooh, I forgot Jouko Ahola, another very cool athlete, and Magnus Ver Magnusson back in the day. Who remembers the battles between Geoff Capes and Jon Pall Sigmarsson ?

Is it weird that we used to sit down as a family and watch World's Strongest Man as a family when I was a kid?

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 09:49 PM

Hahaha! yeah, I watched WSM very often when I was in my teens. It's amazing how big and strong these guys are while still pretty fast and not so cumbersome and awkward.

I'd like to try some of this stuff if I had a chance, equipment and a space. Anyway, i'm recently in some stuff called 70's big. I've found a documentary about the late Swedish discus thrower Ricky Bruch called SJÄLEN_ÄR_STÖRRE_ÄN_VÄRLDEN (Thanks to the flying spaghetti monster for copy paste function).

It's quite a haunting and in a dark obscure type mesmerising story, typycal for northerns, such a speciffic feeling of darkness and solitude but not in a bad way at all. It's about his workouts and life which seems pretty chaotic at times but interesting.
Try to find it on Isohunt, Demonoid, Pirate's bay or some similar site. Just get the english titles for it. It's mostly in Swedish I think. Worth watching.

Edited by Munthasem, 25 November 2011 - 01:27 AM.

?Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in an attractive and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand,
strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and
screaming?.. WOO HOO?. What a RIDE!?

- Indian Larry Desmedt -
R.I.P. 1949. - 2004.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:50 AM

Yeah, some of the guys today are really athletic. Hugely strong, but fast and agile too.

You can improvise, use heavy dumbbells or barbells for farmers walk. Use sandbags for stone carrying or loading.

Sounds good, I'll see if I can find the documentary.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:20 PM

This is interesting: "
"Dog Brothers mix philosophy with a bruising style of fighting"


http://www.cnn.com/2...html?hpt=hp_bn2

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:52 PM

This is interesting: "
"Dog Brothers mix philosophy with a bruising style of fighting"


http://www.cnn.com/2...html?hpt=hp_bn2

http://dogbrothers.com/
The name supposedly comes from tPotS: "Here I am, you jackals!" roared the Cimmerian. "I am the king! Death
to you, dog-brothers!"

It's likely that the founders read the line in a comic.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:59 AM

Dog Brothers Stick Fighting, crazy ****ers! Looks like a lot of fun

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 05:23 PM

No kidding, eh! And mom said no hitting with sticks!

Edited by Fierro, 11 December 2011 - 05:24 PM.