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[LCUCHULAIN]

I've often wondered, who would win in a fight: the Tiger of Atlantis or Amra the Lion? Which one is stronger? I don't mean Kevin Sorbo's tepid and off base Kull or Schwarzenneggers Conan. I mean the one's from the novels. I remember a SSOC form the seventies showing they met, but I don't remember the outcome.
Any help...?

[jimbo]

Actually it was in Marvel's Conan the Barbarian #68 that Conan and Kull met and exchanged some sword slashes. They don't finish the fight in the story.

There are a lot of things I like about Kull...but just by what I have read of Howard I feel that Conan is the tougher of the two. One way or another I would not want to be the one to have to clean all the blood up after those two fought.

[LCUCHULAIN]

Was that the same issue that showed Red Sonja and was revealed that Kull was Conan's ancestor??

[Winterghost]

Well, I think Breckinridge Elkins could take 'em both at the same time with one hand tied behind his back!

[jimbo]

Was that the same issue that showed Red Sonja and was revealed that Kull was Conan's ancestor??

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I don't think remember them relating Conan to Kull in the story, but Sonja (and Belit) is in it.

[LCUCHULAIN]

I would think Conan would have the edge (biased opinion!) but only because I think that Kull is the thinking man's barbarian..

[Kieran]

I get the impression in the Kull stories that he always has a harder time fighting than Conan. I think Conan would be the tougher, but Kull is undoubtedly smarter.

[finmaccool]

You guys are way off base.
Read your Howard and the answer is right before your noses.
Conan is a big and strong man. But he does not have the superhuman/infrahuman strength of Kull, who is a feral man like ERBs Tarzan.

In "Slithering Shadow" a Cthulhu-ey critter whips the $#!+ out of Conan and he is very much the worse for wear in taking it on.....

But what happens when Kull takes on a similar Cthulhu-ey tentacled critter in "Delcardes Cat"?
Kull reaches out and grabs a tentacle and PULPS it in a vice like grip.
In other words, an abominable monster that could nearly whip the Cimmerian to death is hardly a nuisance to Kull.

Conan was a heck of a man but he was raised by men.
Kull was a bit more as he was raised by tigers in the jungles of Atlantis.
As Howard points out, despite his scorn, Conan nearly met his match in Baal Pteor. Kull never met anybody close to his match and he could have kicked Conan's ass without breaking a sweat.

Comic book writers like Roy Thomas and later, Mike Fleischer turned Conan into a sort of Machiste movie with goofy feats of strength that Howard's Conan would not have been capable of.
How did Conan get out of the dungeon in Hour of the Dragon? He didn't break any chains that I recall or bend any steel bars.
Don't mistake Fuaxnan for Conan.

[A540]

I grew up on the Marvel Conan...the one that could pull a whole column buiding down with a rope (can't remember the issue) or lift his horse with one arm (SSOC 118)...so in my world Conan could kick Kull's arse!

[tofu]

Conan was strong and uncivilized until his later years as a Mercinary under Turan. But I have to agree that Kull was better educated in matters of wars haveing to confront the lemurian Race all those years,and was a better General so to speak . His Knowledge alone would give him the advantage over Conan in an extended battle.

Bronze does not always make you a winner... unless you know how to use it to your advantage.


I Love Conan, and have been a serious fan since I was 8.But I have to say Kull would be one to train the Young Barbarian in matters of winning battles=)

[korak]

A540
I grew up on the Marvel Conan...the one that could pull a whole column buiding down with a rope (can't remember the issue) or lift his horse with one arm (SSOC 118)...so in my world Conan could kick Kull's arse!


The only problem with that theory is that Kull was also a Marvel superhero!

[Dragon Girl]

They'd end up calling it a draw and going to a tavern for some wenching and guzzling.

[Kylel Ironclaw]

I'd pick Conan on this one, easy. From what I've read of Kull (the Howard stories only), he doesn't do that much fighting. In all honesty, he sits around and philosophizes all the time. He's the same character archetype as Conan was after he became king, but Conan had a lot more literary history as a youth. Or this could probably be because I don't like Kull all that much; he doesn't do much fighting, drinking, swearing, or wenching (didn't he even say he has no time/interest in women?).

(shrugs)

I guess I could always connect (or at least project my unconscious desires) in conjunction with Conan's life a lot more than I could with Kull. Kull is a king, sure, but Conan is more a force of nature than an actual person...he's this primal, elemental thing. It's like comparing Gill Man to Godzilla.

[Sermon Bath]

kull would win cause he has a couple of sidekicks that help him all the time...including brule (a fine warrior in his own right)

[Aaront596]

conan.

[Sermon Bath]

conan is probably a lot stronger.....he gets all those extra workouts having sex with every female who crosses his path

[deuce]

Well, I think Breckinridge Elkins could take 'em both at the same time with one hand tied behind his back!

Right on, WG!

[yimsha]

They'd end up calling it a draw and going to a tavern for some wenching and guzzling.

the art of fighting without fighting. Well said madam.

[Sharn]

I've concluded who could woop both Kull AND Conan - The Grintch

[vetrebond]

I've concluded who could woop both Kull AND Conan - The Grintch

He is a mean one.