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[THE KID]

Are there any definitive collections, the way there are with Howard, Lovecraft, Leiber, Moorcock?

Dunsany doesn't have any big omnibus's of his short stories, it seems... and I can't find much on that front for Smith, either. I've never read them and I'd like to.

Maybe I should post this on a forum dedicated to one of them rather than here, I don't know.

I don't read Dunsany but I can help you with Clark Ashton Smith. There's another Topic on Clark Ashton Smith. Search, Find it, and not only will you find everything you needed to know but also a really cool color picture of the house he lived in!

If you haven't had a chance to get a Kindle it's a great way to instantly read stories at 85% of the cost of a book. The cost was only $1.99 and estimated pages 1812.

133 Weird Tales-era works of horror, science fiction and fantasy have been gathered here into one volume, all written by Clark Ashton Smith, who was the third member of the literary circle that included authors Robert E. Howard and H.P. Lovecraft. Excluding only fragmentary notes, excerpts and synopses he never finished during his lifetime, this is perhaps the largest single collection of all his published and unpublished fiction.

Look at the Ereader section sometime.

I just downloaded -

The Ultimate Weird Tales Collection - 133 stories - Clark Ashton Smith (Trilogus Classics) [Kindle Edition]

[Almuric]

Dunsany, I have never seen in all my bookstore wanderings. Smith is a bit easier, but still hard. The two Smith collections I have, Lost Worlds, and Zothique were found in a specialty SF/F bookstore and a convention, respectively.

[Gibush]

Hi!
These here about covers it.
The 2 bison books are Arkham house reprints.
Nightshade editions are completre but fairly expensive.
The Gollancz collection is great but harder to find.
The "Best of" is good but doesn't cover as much as the others.

Take care.
Doug


http://www.nightshad...uct_detail&p=88

http://www.amazon.co...30378154&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co...0378154&sr=8-11

http://www.amazon.co...pd_bxgy_b_img_b

http://www.sfsite.com/08b/ed134.htm

Actually, just after posting this I found that Gollancz/Fantasy Masterworks edition. I found it on a website where it can be bought for $9 or so. Not bad.
It seems to be mostly the Fantasy stories... hard to say what that means. He was more famous for horror/weird, right?

Richard: Yeah, that looks great. I don't have a Kindle, though.

Dunsany, I have never seen in all my bookstore wanderings. Smith is a bit easier, but still hard. The two Smith collections I have, Lost Worlds, and Zothique were found in a specialty SF/F bookstore and a convention, respectively.

Luckily, there's a Fantasy Masterworks just for Dunsany as well! Sometimes you gotta look outside of American publishers, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia....s_%28omnibus%29

It collects 6 of his story collections.

Edited by Gibush, 28 February 2012 - 07:00 AM.

[Libaax]

Lord Dunsany best works are much easier to find than CAS. Gollancz has most of collections in print by Lord Dunsany and Del Rey has the novels. Its only Jorkens volumes that is rare hard to find. Dunsany is print alot of in UK, his books are in the stores here.

CAS i have not read his best collections because Nightshade complete collection is 60 pounds as second hand.....

[Arcadian]

Unfortunate to notice that vols 1 & 2 of the NIghtshade CAS are out-of-print.

Gibush: CAS is probably best known for his Zothique stories, which are generally classified as part of the "Dying Earth" genre:

The science and machinery of our present civilization have long been forgotten, together with our present religions. But many gods are worshipped; and sorcery and demonism prevail again as in ancient days. Oars and sails alone are used by mariners. There are no fire-arms—only the bows, arrows, swords, javelins, etc. of antiquity. (Smith, 1953)

Otherwise, Smith wrote horror, fantasy, science fiction, but was not always true to any particular genre.

[Ningauble]

Are there any definitive collections, the way there are with Howard, Lovecraft, Leiber, Moorcock?

Dunsany doesn't have any big omnibus's of his short stories, it seems... and I can't find much on that front for Smith, either. I've never read them and I'd like to.

Maybe I should post this on a forum dedicated to one of them rather than here, I don't know.

I don't read Dunsany but I can help you with Clark Ashton Smith. There's another Topic on Clark Ashton Smith. Search, Find it, and not only will you find everything you needed to know but also a really cool color picture of the house he lived in!

If you haven't had a chance to get a Kindle it's a great way to instantly read stories at 85% of the cost of a book. The cost was only $1.99 and estimated pages 1812.

133 Weird Tales-era works of horror, science fiction and fantasy have been gathered here into one volume, all written by Clark Ashton Smith, who was the third member of the literary circle that included authors Robert E. Howard and H.P. Lovecraft. Excluding only fragmentary notes, excerpts and synopses he never finished during his lifetime, this is perhaps the largest single collection of all his published and unpublished fiction.

Look at the Ereader section sometime.

I just downloaded -

The Ultimate Weird Tales Collection - 133 stories - Clark Ashton Smith (Trilogus Classics) [Kindle Edition]

I'm not sure whether that is legal -- CAS is still in copyright.
The Collected Fantasies are also available as e-books: http://www.webscript...ith-bundle.aspx

[Ningauble]

Hi!
These here about covers it.
The 2 bison books are Arkham house reprints.
Nightshade editions are completre but fairly expensive.
The Gollancz collection is great but harder to find.
The "Best of" is good but doesn't cover as much as the others.

Take care.
Doug


http://www.nightshad...uct_detail&p=88

http://www.amazon.co...30378154&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co...0378154&sr=8-11

http://www.amazon.co...pd_bxgy_b_img_b

http://www.sfsite.com/08b/ed134.htm

Actually, just after posting this I found that Gollancz/Fantasy Masterworks edition. I found it on a website where it can be bought for $9 or so. Not bad.
It seems to be mostly the Fantasy stories... hard to say what that means. He was more famous for horror/weird, right?

Richard: Yeah, that looks great. I don't have a Kindle, though.

Dunsany, I have never seen in all my bookstore wanderings. Smith is a bit easier, but still hard. The two Smith collections I have, Lost Worlds, and Zothique were found in a specialty SF/F bookstore and a convention, respectively.

Luckily, there's a Fantasy Masterworks just for Dunsany as well! Sometimes you gotta look outside of American publishers, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia....s_%28omnibus%29

It collects 6 of his story collections.

However, it's got some really weird typos and it puts his first story collection last in the book.

[Ningauble]

Lord Dunsany best works are much easier to find than CAS. Gollancz has most of collections in print by Lord Dunsany and Del Rey has the novels.

AFAIK, Del Rey has two novels in print. That's not a lot.

Its only Jorkens volumes that is rare hard to find.

No, The Man Who Ate the Phoenix and The Little Tales of Smethers are much more difficult to find.

Dunsany is print alot of in UK, his books are in the stores here.

Just beware the bad POD stuff.
There were plans (by Hippocampus Press) to collect all of Dunsany's short stories -- including the several hundreds of uncollected and even unpublished ones -- in four volumes a few years ago, but nothing has happened yet.

Edited by Ningauble, 28 February 2012 - 11:22 PM.

[Libaax]

Don Rodrigues novel is in print by other smaller UK publishers. I have brand new version by them through my bookstore. There is bad POD since i order through my fav bookstore so they find the best real versions in print for me.

The Blessing of Pan is also in print. There is few rare collections, i was lucky to find some of them in old library versions. Those are for die hard fans. If you want to read his classic fantasy stories you can find 90% in print.

Still Lord Dunsany has become much more printed in the last few decades. He is much easier to find than earlier when he was more forgotten. Thanks to paperback versions from UK he is much cheaper to buy than expensive second hand collections of CAS.

[Rockamobile]

Lord Dunsany best works are much easier to find than CAS. Gollancz has most of collections in print by Lord Dunsany and Del Rey has the novels. Its only Jorkens volumes that is rare hard to find. Dunsany is print alot of in UK, his books are in the stores here.

CAS i have not read his best collections because Nightshade complete collection is 60 pounds as second hand.....

Lord Dunsany wrote a science fiction solve in the 1950's called Futurescope . I've never seen it in print.

[Tex]

Lord Dunsany wrote a science fiction solve in the 1950's called Futurescope . I've never seen it in print.

You mean The Pleasures of a Futuroscope.



Try here...

http://www.amazon.co...y/dp/0972164480

Good book! I had it back in 2004 (yet another one I need to replace from Katrina.)

They got the hardcover used for $4.78.

Tex
(grab it before someone else here does)

[Doug]

Hi!
These here about covers it.
The 2 bison books are Arkham house reprints.
Nightshade editions are completre but fairly expensive.
The Gollancz collection is great but harder to find.
The "Best of" is good but doesn't cover as much as the others.

Take care.
Doug


http://www.nightshad...uct_detail&p=88

http://www.amazon.co...30378154&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.co...0378154&sr=8-11

http://www.amazon.co...pd_bxgy_b_img_b

http://www.sfsite.com/08b/ed134.htm

Actually, just after posting this I found that Gollancz/Fantasy Masterworks edition. I found it on a website where it can be bought for $9 or so. Not bad.
It seems to be mostly the Fantasy stories... hard to say what that means. He was more famous for horror/weird, right?

Richard: Yeah, that looks great. I don't have a Kindle, though.

Dunsany, I have never seen in all my bookstore wanderings. Smith is a bit easier, but still hard. The two Smith collections I have, Lost Worlds, and Zothique were found in a specialty SF/F bookstore and a convention, respectively.

Luckily, there's a Fantasy Masterworks just for Dunsany as well! Sometimes you gotta look outside of American publishers, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia....s_%28omnibus%29

It collects 6 of his story collections.

Regarding the "Fantasy Masterworks" edition from gollancz.......
his fantasy stories are his "weird" writings. Believe me, this edition is chockfull of wierdness. His straight up horror stories are nearly as weird as his fantasies.
check this out......

http://www.eldritchd...f-the-torturers


Take care.
Doug

[Libaax]

Yeah forget about those rare old fantasy collections, they collect only the same fantasy stories as his Gollancz 6 fantasy collection omnibus.


Like Tex showed even his only SF is easy to find in print and others rare books you can find second hand.

Its only Jorkens i want that i have to save 200-300 dollar for each second hand volume

Lord Dunsany is my second all-time favorite author after Vance and im glad i can buy 99% of his works in print or cheap second hand!

Edited by Libaax, 29 February 2012 - 09:31 AM.

[Kane]

http://www.eldritchdark.com/
an online collection to a number of CAS stories and additional material.

[Hawkbrother]

I have the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series of both Dunsany and Smith that were published in the late 60s and 70s. They can probably be found on some used book site like Biblio.
The Dunsany included The King of Elfland's Daughter, Don Rodriguez, the Charwoman's Shadow, plus 2 volumes of short stories.
The Smith was short stories,mostly from Weird Tales- Hyperborea, Xiccarph, Poseidonis, Zothique.

[Ningauble]

Lord Dunsany is my second all-time favorite author after Vance and im glad i can buy 99% of his works in print or cheap second hand!

Probably not true. Dunsany published over 60 books and I doubt that almost all of them can be found cheap. Most of the novels, for example. Besides, there are HUNDREDS of stories that have never been collected in book form, plus hundreds that haven't even been published (I have a copy of one of those, in fact).

[Libaax]

Lord Dunsany is my second all-time favorite author after Vance and im glad i can buy 99% of his works in print or cheap second hand!

Probably not true. Dunsany published over 60 books and I doubt that almost all of them can be found cheap. Most of the novels, for example. Besides, there are HUNDREDS of stories that have never been collected in book form, plus hundreds that haven't even been published (I have a copy of one of those, in fact).

60 of those books are collections with same fantasy short stories. I have checked content list for those collections. He didnt write as much fantasy stories as that. The unpublished stuff i cant do anything about. Most of his fantasy short is collected in omnibus by Gollancz, few other collections.

Even the out of print stuff i can buy you just have to look online.

The only hard stuff to find is his non-fantasy works like that Dean Spanley novel, few other early novel. The Fantasy,sf stories of his is easy to find outside US that is.

If you care enough to look you can even buy expensive second hand volumes like Jorkens, other early stuff. What do you expect a classic author like him to have more in print than new authors.....

Edited by Libaax, 01 March 2012 - 12:12 AM.

[Ningauble]

60 of those books are collections with same fantasy short stories.

No, they're not. I'm referring to books published during his lifetime. You need to have a look at Dunsany: A Bibliography before you make claims like that.

I have checked content list for those collections. He didnt write as much fantasy stories as that.

That's not what I said. You were referring to 99% of his works being in print or cheaply available second hand -- no qualifiers. I said that's probably not true, which it isn't. QED.

Even if we speak of 99% of his fantastic stories, that's not true either. He wrote a whole lot more fantasy stories than what is in print or availabe in cheap second-hand sources.

The only hard stuff to find is his non-fantasy works like that Dean Spanley novel, few other early novel.

Dean Spanley is not "non-fantasy", nor is it particularly hard to find. It was in print just a couple of years ago, right around when the movie appeared, and second-hand copies shouldn't be as expensive as Amazon UK claims.
I'd say it is the later novels that are difficult to find; both Don Rodriguez and The King of Elfland's Daughter -- his first novels -- are in print.

If you care enough to look you can even buy expensive second hand volumes like Jorkens, other early stuff.

Early or late doesn't matter -- both are almost equally difficult to find. The main exception is books published before 1923, because those are public domain in the US and therefore we have umpteen crappy POD editions of those in print. But there are very few really nice Dunsany collections in print.

[Libaax]

• The Gods of Pegāna (1905) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[1])
• Time and the Gods (1906) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[2])
• The Sword of Welleran and Other Stories (1908) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[3])
• A Dreamer's Tales (1910) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[4])
• The Book of Wonder (1912) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[5])
• Fifty-One Tales, aka The Food of Death (1915) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[6])
• Tales of Wonder (1916) (published in America as The Last Book of Wonder) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[7])
• Tales of Three Hemispheres (1919) (Project Gutenberg Entry:[8])
• The Man Who Ate the Phoenix (1949)
• The Little Tales of Smethers and Other Stories (1952), including the "Linley" crime/mystery tales

What i mean of those collection of his times only the last two is out of print, hard to find in UK. The rest is easy to find in paperback in print or good second hand. Thats pretty good. Its the crime stories, other genres of his that is rare plus that The Man Who Ate the Phoenix collection.

We can agree on his later novels are hard to find. Dean Spanley isnt in print.
I checked mostly collections published after his times they are mostly the same fantasy stoires that you can find by Gollancz, Penguin etc

I dont care about US out of print since UK has alot of his fantasy stories, collections i need. Spanley is not expensive. In UK he is not hard to find, im in Sweden which makes i see those books from UK in the stores. I can get the stories that published in his time, after him except the rare books,collection you mentioned.

I dont care about fine collections. I will take anything i can find. I cant time travel and publish for him stories that is unpublished. I can get everything i can find. I can give up or hope those 1949 collection and 1952 collection is printed in the future.

I dont have to pay 200 Punds for Jorken volumes i can get them from the library but i dont want that. He isnt easily published but he isnt hard to collect for what they have published in the the last 60-70 years.

Im more realistic than hoping every story he ever wrote to be printed today. Specially since he has become bigger, easier to find in the last decades. All in print are from 1990s-2000s.

Edited by Libaax, 01 March 2012 - 07:56 PM.

[TomByCrom]

These are some of my all-time favorites, new and older:

The War of the Flowers by Tad Williams- a modern, Faerie based tale. Outstanding.

The Cardinal's Blades and The Alchemist In the Shadows by Pierre Pevel- Musketeers and magic? Sign me up!!!

Wolfsangel by M.D. Lachlan- It's werewolves. It's Norseman. It's mythologically mesmerizing haven't started on the sequel yet, Fenrir.

The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear by Patrick Rothfuss. Utterly compelling and epic stuff.

and now, since the horse ain't dead yet, I champion George R.R. Martin (Song of Fire & Ice), Joe Abercrombie (The First Law especially), and ANY book by the late David Gemmell. Seriously, I have read and reread them all, and Gemmell never disappoints. Ever.
Cheers!