Death Of Conan: Does Conan Ever Die?
#21
Posted 26 October 2003 - 05:27 PM
#22
Posted 26 October 2003 - 08:56 PM
Of course he does, like King Arthur, Merlin, John Sheridan (from Babylon 5) and Elvis.Conan still lives
#23
Posted 28 October 2003 - 06:23 PM
#24
Posted 28 October 2003 - 06:27 PM
#25
Posted 28 October 2003 - 06:37 PM
And force upon Mankind the Freedom he fears--
And dead gods I will again defy?"
#26
Posted 29 October 2003 - 06:26 PM
#27
Posted 29 October 2003 - 10:26 PM
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
"I was," grunted [Conan]. "I was one of the horde that swarmed over the hills. I hadn't yet seen fifteen snows, but already my name was repeated about the council fires." - "Beyond the Black River", by Robert E. Howard
Read my Conan screenplays at The Scrolls of Ironhand (in particular my transcription of THE FROST GIANT'S DAUGHTER in Act II of "The Snow Devil") at
http://www.scrollsof...d.us/index.html or at
http://www.delicious...ic=ConanProject
#28
Posted 30 October 2003 - 10:15 AM
"My hair! He touched my hair!"
"Damned degenerates!" ~ Conan 'Xuthal Of The Dusk'
#29
Posted 13 December 2003 - 05:33 AM
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if u want to read my short story about a 'titanic battle' between conan + kane -
then goto conan.no main forum
+ SEARCH for [ Kane v Conan THE BIG FIGHT ! ]
dated 9-27-03
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it's gory, shocking, + spectacular !
but remember - it is ONLY A twisted dark FICTION !
i luv both conan + kane.
i still feel uncomfortable every time i read it.
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long live our great heros ! ?
#30
Posted 13 December 2003 - 06:01 AM
No, you are right. REH never wrote such a tale. Conan on new continents springs from L. Sprague de Camp. (Conan Of The Isles) Chronologically the last Conan stories by REH were The Phoenix On The Sword, The Scarlet Citadel & Hour Of The Dragon, in that order. Hour Of The Dragon is the last we hear of from Howard's Conan. Mind you I'm only speaking of his age. REH never had any idea we'd be analyzing where he ended his Conan yarns. (as he liked to call them)Howard did this? When? ( I just never heard about it )Purposely Howard had Conan set off for the new continent to further enforce the whole 'barbarism vs civilization' concept.
PS: To see what Conan does to creatures who like to pull his hair, see Iron Shadows In The Moonlight.
"Blast him, he's torn a handful of my hair out by the roots!"
Oh and BP, total fiction yeah, there is no way Kane could take Conan!
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king.
- "The Road of Kings"
#31
Posted 30 December 2003 - 05:41 AM
I vaguely recall this, but it has been many years since I read the triology. Do you recall which book it was in? I'll have to pull my copy out and leaf through it for the page and passage.The Illuminatus Trilogy has Conan return from the West and fight a Great Old One with his son.
#32
Posted 30 December 2003 - 06:56 AM
#33
Posted 30 December 2003 - 07:44 AM
Oh yeah, that was in Conan and the Last Temptation.I kinda see Conan returning in secret to either Aquilonia or Cimmeria where he finds a local woman who understands him , falls in love with her, settles into the quiet life and raises kids with her.
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
"I was," grunted [Conan]. "I was one of the horde that swarmed over the hills. I hadn't yet seen fifteen snows, but already my name was repeated about the council fires." - "Beyond the Black River", by Robert E. Howard
Read my Conan screenplays at The Scrolls of Ironhand (in particular my transcription of THE FROST GIANT'S DAUGHTER in Act II of "The Snow Devil") at
http://www.scrollsof...d.us/index.html or at
http://www.delicious...ic=ConanProject
#34
Posted 25 January 2004 - 04:59 AM
all we have to do is pass it on to our children, and they will pass it on to there children, and they will pass it on to there children, and one of those children will get licensing to conan and make another movie!...?...
anyways, i think "like most war heros" he will become a king, and then one day he will get into a great war with everysingle kingdom at the same time, fighting dragons and demons recruited by the enemy, a raging battle with thousands of men, then finally all of conans men will be dead, and a 1000 enemy nights will still be remaining, so conan takes the atlantean sword and goes out to fight them himself, conan kills many people but then is kill by an arrow in the head when he charges into battle, then he goes to hell and fight ghosts, devils, zombies, and skeletons and then satan himself for a final one on one battle, after brutaly weakening the devil, he finds himself brought back to life by his wizard friend, then him, the wizard, and a new theif friend of his, journey through the 7 seas never to be seen again...
or at least that is how i picture it(me apologizes for the long post)
#35
Posted 02 February 2004 - 04:30 PM
The death of such a monumental hero of the Hyborian age is not an easy subject to understand. You must realize that Conan is the Hyborian age and without him there would be nothing. So when Conan died so did Hyboria, meaning that whatever cataclysmic event destroyed Hyboria also killed Conan. Of course if you want to romanticise the whole thing lets say the cataclysm happened while Conan was fighting his last battle and after slaying his last foe he decides right then and there that he has fought and lived long enough, and then boom, no more Hyboria. It makes sense, because Conan could never be killed by anyone, human or otherwise. When he died, it was his decision. So there, there you have it. Not based of ReH at all, just my own idea. Would the existence of Hyboria even make sense with no Conan?
#36
Posted 02 February 2004 - 10:35 PM
great ideaConan's death shouldn't ever be publically discussed, but since thats exactly whats happening here I suppose I could give my opinion.
The death of such a monumental hero of the Hyborian age is not an easy subject to understand. You must realize that Conan is the Hyborian age and without him there would be nothing. So when Conan died so did Hyboria, meaning that whatever cataclysmic event destroyed Hyboria also killed Conan. Of course if you want to romanticise the whole thing lets say the cataclysm happened while Conan was fighting his last battle and after slaying his last foe he decides right then and there that he has fought and lived long enough, and then boom, no more Hyboria. It makes sense, because Conan could never be killed by anyone, human or otherwise. When he died, it was his decision. So there, there you have it. Not based of ReH at all, just my own idea. Would the existence of Hyboria even make sense with no Conan?
it makes a lot of sence that conan is too great to die by the hand of someone else
and it reminds me of what valeria always used to say
do you want to live forever?
#37
Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:26 AM
10,700 years later, he was reincarnated as Carl Martel to drive the Moors out of France and found the Carolingian dynasty, thus fitting nicely into the "Conan the Legend" comic book.
I invented the above in less than 5 minutes. My best ideas come like a bolt from the blue.
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
"I was," grunted [Conan]. "I was one of the horde that swarmed over the hills. I hadn't yet seen fifteen snows, but already my name was repeated about the council fires." - "Beyond the Black River", by Robert E. Howard
Read my Conan screenplays at The Scrolls of Ironhand (in particular my transcription of THE FROST GIANT'S DAUGHTER in Act II of "The Snow Devil") at
http://www.scrollsof...d.us/index.html or at
http://www.delicious...ic=ConanProject
#38
Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:43 AM
I actually like that concept.Conan never died, but slumbers beneath a mountain, to awaken in Aquilonia's hour of dire need. Somehow he slept through the cataclysm that destroyed Aquilonia.
10,700 years later, he was reincarnated as Carl Martel to drive the Moors out of France and found the Carolingian dynasty, thus fitting nicely into the "Conan the Legend" comic book.
I invented the above in less than 5 minutes. My best ideas come like a bolt from the blue.
And force upon Mankind the Freedom he fears--
And dead gods I will again defy?"
#39
Posted 04 February 2004 - 02:29 PM
Conan wasn't around in the pre-cataclysmic age. The one that shaped Kull's world into Conan's. He wasn't there when the second one occured either. If you want to go by de Camp's timeline, well he abdicated his throne and sailed into the sunset ages before.Conan's death shouldn't ever be publically discussed, but since thats exactly whats happening here I suppose I could give my opinion.
The death of such a monumental hero of the Hyborian age is not an easy subject to understand. You must realize that Conan is the Hyborian age and without him there would be nothing. So when Conan died so did Hyboria, meaning that whatever cataclysmic event destroyed Hyboria also killed Conan. Of course if you want to romanticise the whole thing lets say the cataclysm happened while Conan was fighting his last battle and after slaying his last foe he decides right then and there that he has fought and lived long enough, and then boom, no more Hyboria. It makes sense, because Conan could never be killed by anyone, human or otherwise. When he died, it was his decision. So there, there you have it. Not based of ReH at all, just my own idea. Would the existence of Hyboria even make sense with no Conan?
Conan died. The Hyborian age continued. Conan was one of his age's greatest warrior kings, but that's it. Epimitreus the sage might have used Conan as a tool to shape Hyboria's dynasties but Conan was mortal.
If what you mean is that a Hyborian background minus Conan doesn't work, I agree with you. Without Kull or Conan or Mak Morn in each of their respective time frames, the stories would not appeal to me.
I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky.
The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king.
- "The Road of Kings"
#40
Posted 14 February 2004 - 10:43 PM










