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#41 berserkmax

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 06:09 PM

I guess, and this is just my two-cents here, legally, if the fan-movie were to in anyway detract from Conan's image or slander him in such away that it could harm the profitability of the companies, entities that own the image of Conan, lol said companies/entities could have the right to take legal action in having it removed and be compensated for any damages incurred, but I don't see that happening.

So how come nobody removed CTB or CTD? I guess because they didn't harm the profitability of the companies. <_<


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Posted 08 May 2008 - 10:10 PM

Those are parodies, as I said, and covered by fair use. ;)

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 02:26 AM

I guess, and this is just my two-cents here, legally, if the fan-movie were to in anyway detract from Conan's image or slander him in such away that it could harm the profitability of the companies, entities that own the image of Conan, lol said companies/entities could have the right to take legal action in having it removed and be compensated for any damages incurred, but I don't see that happening.

So how come nobody removed CTB or CTD? I guess because they didn't harm the profitability of the companies. <_<


Well just off the top of my head here I would reckon that those said companies somehow acquired the rights to do with Conan what ever they wanted. Besides I think the films were very profitable as I can't think of anyone who hasn't seen 'em.

Edited by Manzur, 09 May 2008 - 02:26 AM.


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Posted 21 May 2008 - 06:44 AM

Actually animating Yag Kosha wouldn't be all that hard.... Its just a withered body with an elephant head that barely moves. With the trunk covering most of the mouth, even the lip sync could be a little 'off' and no one might notice....


Sorry, that would look really amateurish. :) What about the lions? Maybe stuffed pillows?


just got around to reading back through this thread and nothing TheLordCrom is describing sounds amateurish to me. it sounds in general like he knows what he's talking about. Yag Kosha as described in the story could be done pretty cheaply while still looking good. it's been awhile since i've read the story, but as i recall Yag Kosha is practically paralyzed, so he doesn't need to be capable of much movement. the rigging could be very simple. you'd also have to animate the flying shots for the flashback but even that wouldn't necessarily require very extensive rigging.

as for the flyover, if you have some software where you won't have to build the city piece by piece, it might be worth trying it. i've personally spent many weeks building a cg city that was of pretty pathetic quality.

personally, i'd recommend a combination of paintings and models. if you limit the amount of camera movement (and really extensive flyarounds get cheesy anyways) you can get a lot of bang for the buck. only the models that are really close to camera need much actual 3-d detail. the rest can be painted facades. a lot of your light and shadow can be in the painted textures which will make your lighting and rendering much less expensive.

the lions will almost certainly be very expensive if they're too look good at all. unlike Yag Kosha, the lions really have to move and you probably want some fur simulation. it's tough because people know what lions look like and how they move. you can't get away with much.

if i were choosing a Conan story to do on the cheap, look for stories with limited locations and small casts. you also might want to avoid many animated characters unless you know some good animators. Phoenix On The Sword or God in The Bowl could be good. so could Frost Giant's Daughter if you can find a good way to pull off the giants. actually, if you're willing to forego camera moves for those scenes, the Giants could be done through forced perspective and look better than any cg you could get without shelling out tens of thousands of dollars.

forced perspective is of course how they did a lot of the size stuff for LOTR. they had some really fancy and expensive rigs so they could do it with camera moves, but if you lock off the camera it can be done quite cheaply. it's great for low budget work because it's all in camera. no expensive post production.

just get some scary lookin dudes with cool costumes and maybe a bit of makeup, do some careful choreography and you could have a truly impressive sequence. you could almost certainly find SCA and viking re-enactment people who'd help you with the opening battle.

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 08:37 PM

Hey, we're getting the band back together; it looks like we're free to work on this again, for real this time.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:46 PM

cool, would love to help out in some way! what's the sit rep?
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 08:01 PM

Count me in too. I am just a poor college student though, so chances are I'll never make it across the Atlantic unless someone sponsors my flight.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:13 PM

I'm in San Jose, so if I can help out in anyway, I'd like to be part of it. Kind of technology-challenged, but willing and local.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:29 PM

If you're in northern California, send me a PM; I am sure we can come up with something.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 10:38 PM

If you're in northern California, send me a PM; I am sure we can come up with something.

I went to your profile page and tried to send you a PM, but it said you were not receiving any at this time. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 11:27 PM

PM sent. My mailbox might be full or something.



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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:53 AM

Nicely done but I'm not sure how I feel about The Last of the Mohicans music. Maybe because The Last of the Mohicans resonates with me so much that it took me out of the immersion of your film.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 08:29 AM

Hi Kortoso -

Tried to PM but your box must be full. I am in Alameda, and I'd love to be involved in the fan film. Not sure exactly what I would be able to offer, but I'm up for trying :)

EDIT: Not sure how this thread got "active" again - I now see you hadn't posted for 2 years :) Oh well, if you do get something going let me know.

Edited by Primeval, 15 June 2010 - 08:32 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 05:59 PM

The flame burns as brightly as ever, lads. PMs sent.

I haven't heard from Cuchulain lately, but I assure you that he's all in as well.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 06:26 AM

PM sent. My mailbox might be full or something.



Looks good, I would have liked to have seen a little more variety, and maybe a couple more people wandering around in the background, but still captured the atmosphere of the poem very well IMO. I don't think I can do anything to help, I'm in France and have no experience or skills in the film industry, but here's the offer anyway... If I can do anything to help let me know.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 06:03 PM

Thank you, it would have been much better if more than two of us showed up for the taping, but I do appreciate Edward's stalwart contribution.

Droc, you're welcome to make your own version of this! Posted Image

I have a Yahoo group for such fanfilms, for local people in the SF Bay Area:
http://movies.groups.../group/guignol/

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:26 PM

Thank you, it would have been much better if more than two of us showed up for the taping, but I do appreciate Edward's stalwart contribution.

Droc, you're welcome to make your own version of this! Posted Image

I have a Yahoo group for such fanfilms, for local people in the SF Bay Area:
http://movies.groups.../group/guignol/


I wouldn't know where to start. My criticism was supposed to be constructive, I hope it came across that way.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 05:36 PM

Yeah, no problem. :) Any amateur project like this is going to be limited by funds and the number of willing participants. If I had the cash I'd fly a helicopter over Alaska with Paul Telfer in full kit. ;)

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 03:12 AM

Has any one seen this fan film I found over at the Crom blog? http://ultimateconanfan.blogspot.com/


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:06 AM

Well, not sure I'm used to so many rules. Bit stuffy in here. Can only apologize for not understanding.