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Conan's Children, Get and Spawn Conan's Women and his seed.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 04:28 AM

Hahaha , Hyborian problem-child juvenile delinquent !! Great idea .

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:05 AM

Taranaich, on Feb 27 2006, 04:52 PM, said:

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a pastiche where one of Conan's offspring comes to usurp daddy...

..there was ctb - a film pastiche?? but that coup failed cos the usurper was a wimpy imposter who wept on the floor...?? :lol:

the real 'daddy' has yet to be filmed.
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king Conan had strict rules - NO new young buxom beauties were to be allowed in his royal harem if they had piercing blue eyes, or thick sword-mans wrist, or if they could lift up a eunoch with 1 hand!??
he did not want to accidentally seduce any of his many unknown female offspring!?? :D

+ any suspected 'bastards' were trained + promoted + well paid + sent to fight on the Pictish frontier. so the poor Picts had no chance of any major success there?? ;)

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:14 PM

Taranaich, on Feb 27 2006, 04:52 PM, said:

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a pastiche where one of Conan's offspring comes to usurp daddy.

Maybe one could be at the head of a mighty Stygian army, the son being the unholy offspring of Conan and a Stygian sorceress, who had her way with him through sorcery to birth a child of awesome physical power and terrible sorcerous energy.  Conan is torn: he is his own flesh and blood, yet he is corrupted by his Stygian upbringing, forsaking Crom for Set?

That'd be really interesting, for a pastiche.


But as I said, I've talked to the folks, and no one is really biting on new Conan books...with him in them anyways.
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Post icon  Posted 04 March 2006 - 11:26 AM

Talking bout Conan's bastards: there were old good methods of contraception... like putting crushed grapes into bodges ;)

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 03:35 AM

Taranaich, on Feb 27 2006, 04:52 PM, said:

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a pastiche where one of Conan's offspring comes to usurp daddy.

Maybe one could be at the head of a mighty Stygian army, the son being the unholy offspring of Conan and a Stygian sorceress, who had her way with him through sorcery to birth a child of awesome physical power and terrible sorcerous energy.  Conan is torn: he is his own flesh and blood, yet he is corrupted by his Stygian upbringing, forsaking Crom for Set?

That'd be really interesting, for a pastiche.



Hey, Taranaich! That scenario sounds alot like the tale of Cuchullain and Conn, his son by the Scottish war-witch, Aoife. It also sounds a li'l like Arthur and Modred. Can't have too many Celtic themed stories.

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 03:19 PM

deuce, on Mar 8 2006, 03:35 AM, said:

Hey, Taranaich!  That scenario sounds alot like the tale of Cuchullain and Conn, his son by the Scottish war-witch, Aoife.  It also sounds a li'l like Arthur and Modred.  Can't have too many Celtic themed stories.


Hah, I KNEW that sounded a little too familiar...

Well, what if it's not one of his sons, but a daughter! Would be a nice sort of twist, and it would have an added resonance with Conan. Perhaps Conan's daughter and Akivasha could form some sort of unholy alliance...
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 11:12 PM

View PostKane, on Nov 20 2003, 10:39 AM, said:

I've often thought that any daughter of Conan's would look like Victoria from the WWE.

Check it out for yourself.

Victoria


Or Beth Phoenix.
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Posted 15 February 2008 - 01:07 AM

Conan himself said that he didn't like black women, so any offspring would be non-african. That still leaves a lot of choices though.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 01:31 AM

View PostTsunami, on Feb 15 2008, 01:07 AM, said:

Conan himself said that he didn't like black women, so any offspring would be non-african. That still leaves a lot of choices though.


Hey Tsunami! Welcome to the forum. :) Actually, in "Vale" and "Nails" the Cimmerian said that he was "tired" of black women. The implication seems to be that there definitely could be offspring of Conan and "Ku$hite" women.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 02:10 AM

Actually, even if he didn't like black women, he still would've had to try them to make that decision, so who knows? I take it that he was having black women because they were the most available choice in the part of the world he happened to be in at the time. Variety is the spice of life! Hell, I'd take Sanaa Lathan!

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 02:42 AM

<_< I was wondering if any of the Conan stories ever mentioned Conan having kids. I know most stories talk about all the women he was with so I'm thinking some where along the line he might have some children lurking around.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:48 AM

Not in REH's Conan stories, but in his letter to P.S. Miller, March 10, 1936:

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Conan was about forty when he seized the crown of Aquilonia, and was about forty-four or forty-five at the time of "The Hour of the Dragon." He had no male heir at that time, because he had never bothered to formally make some woman his queen, and the sons of concubines, of which he had a goodly number, were not recognized as heirs to the throne.


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Posted 11 May 2008 - 12:44 PM

There's obviously Conn, in the Marvel Comics.
If Woody had gone straight to the Snowhawk Clan, this would never have happened.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 06:59 PM

In his letter to P. Schuyler Miller, Howard wrote: "He had no male at the time, because he had never bothered to formally make some woman his queen, and the sons of concubines, of which he had a goodly number, were not recognized as heirs to the throne."

So yes, Conan did have sons, numerous ones (as I imagine); however, all were out of wedlock, and therefore just the bastard sons.

I don’t consider Conn Conan’s true son, because Howard never thought him up.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 05:53 PM

Not an REH character, but wasn't there also mention of him having a legitimate daughter, whether it be in the comics or whatever?

But my view is this (and I've said it before): Accounting for the number of women he's had, both in the original REH tales and elsewhere (Olivia, Yasmela, Natala, Valeria, Karela, etc.), he had to have left something behind at some point. It's only logical.
The only woman we know of that, for sure, didn't end up with a bun in the oven is Belit, after all (how that was prevented with them roling around below the decks of the Tigress for three years, we'll probably never know).
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 05:56 PM

View PostAxerules, on May 11 2008, 04:48 AM, said:

Outside REH's writings, some pastichers gave Conan legitimate and bastard descendants. Don't ask me to list them.

Would you list them, then? ;)

No, just kidding. :lol:
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 10:04 AM

Maybe Conan had a narrow urethra? :lol:
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 06:07 PM

View PostAxerules, on May 11 2008, 03:48 AM, said:

Outside REH's writings, some pastichers gave Conan legitimate and bastard descendants. Don't ask me to list them.


Alright then, I'll spare you the trouble:

Sons: Conn, Taurus, Canobar, Kang Sho
Daughters: Radegund, Ra Morgana

Conna, Canobar and Ra Morgana sound fine, Taurus ok as a tribute to the Prince of Thieves, but Radegund? :huh:
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:01 PM

What's bad with Radegund?
Doesn't sound modern, okay. Nothing wrong with that.
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 07:19 PM

View PostTaranaich, on May 14 2008, 07:07 PM, said:

View PostAxerules, on May 11 2008, 03:48 AM, said:

Outside REH's writings, some pastichers gave Conan legitimate and bastard descendants. Don't ask me to list them.


Alright then, I'll spare you the trouble:

Sons: Conn, Taurus, Canobar, Kang Sho
Daughters: Radegund, Ra Morgana

Conna, Canobar and Ra Morgana sound fine, Taurus ok as a tribute to the Prince of Thieves, but Radegund? :huh:

Thanks for listing those. I'll copy and paste them to notepad on my desktop until I find a place to keep them handy.
I, too, like Radegund. It fits the Hyborian Age.
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