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#1 daniel

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 01:56 PM

is there a list of stories by howard that could be termed science fiction more than fantasy, such as almuric? has anybody tried to measure howard's contribution to science fiction?

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 03:07 PM

is there a list of stories by howard that could be termed science fiction more than fantasy, such as almuric? has anybody tried to measure howard's contribution to science fiction?


I suppose it depends on what one wants to call "science fiction". For instance, Almuric is generally called a "Sword and Planet" style story, not really SF. REH also wrote some stuff in the genre of Weird Menace in the day, which were horror stories with nothing supernatural, more hi-tech or super-science. Things like "The Black Hound of Death" and "Black Wind Blowing". He did write some very short pieces that would easily fit in a SF anthology, things like "The Gondarian Man", "The Last Laugh", and "The Supreme Moment".

Bubba says, check 'em out.

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 05:29 PM

is there a list of stories by howard that could be termed science fiction more than fantasy, such as almuric? has anybody tried to measure howard's contribution to science fiction?


I suppose it depends on what one wants to call "science fiction". For instance, Almuric is generally called a "Sword and Planet" style story, not really SF. REH also wrote some stuff in the genre of Weird Menace in the day, which were horror stories with nothing supernatural, more hi-tech or super-science. Things like "The Black Hound of Death" and "Black Wind Blowing". He did write some very short pieces that would easily fit in a SF anthology, things like "The Gondarian Man", "The Last Laugh", and "The Supreme Moment".

Bubba says, check 'em out.


any more? where are they?

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 02:54 PM

ALMURIC
First appeared as a 3-part serial in WEIRD TALES: May 1939; June-July 1939; and August 1939
ALMURIC, Ace and New English Library
ALMURIC, Grant, Berkley, and Sphere
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO
ALMURIC, Pulpville Press
ALMURIC, Paizo Press
ALMURIC, Leonaur

BLACK HOUND OF DEATH
First appeared in WEIRD TALES, November 1936
WEIRD TALES, Neville-Spearman, Carroll & Graf and Xanadu (Anth.)
DARK PHANTASMS #1 (Chpbk.)
WEIRD TALES, VOLUME 1, Sphere (Anth.)
TRAILS IN DARKNESS
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO

BLACK WIND BLOWING
First appeared in THRILLING MYSTERY, June 1936
THE BOOK OF ROBERT E. HOWARD
PULP REVIEW #5
GRAVEYARD RATS AND OTHERS
THE ROBERT E. HOWARD READER, VOLUME ONE

THE GONDARIAN MAN
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #6
THE NEW HOWARD READER #4 (Chpbk.)

THE LAST LAUGH
Alternate title: Untitled (?The rising sun was behind the wild figure.?)
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #9
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)
An untitled incomplete work

THE SUPREME MOMENT
First appeared in CRYPT OF CTHULHU #25 (Chpbk.)
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)

THE VALLEY OF THE LOST (1, ?Jim Brill licked his parched lips . . .?)
Alternate title: KING OF THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE
First appeared in MAGAZINE OF HORROR #13
THE GODS OF BAL-SAGOTH
BEYOND THE BORDERS

PEOPLE OF THE WINGED SKULLS
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE COLLECTED LETTERS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 1: 1923-1929

THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND
By Robert E. Howard, C.L. Moore, A. Merritt, HPL, & Frank Belknap Long
First appeared in FANTASY MAGAZINE, September 1935
BEYOND THE WALLS OF SLEEP (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Pennsylvania Dutch Cheese Press (FAPA)
HORRORS UNKNOWN (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Necronomicon
NAMELESS CULTS
SWORD AND FANTASY #4
THE ROAD TO VELITRIUM #49 (Chpbk.)
THE CROSS PLAINSMAN, December 2005 (Chpbk.)
BEYOND THE BLACK RIVER: THE WEIRD WORKS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 7

THE LAST MAN
Alternate title: Untitled (?The flaming sun of the year 2000 . . .?)
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

THE LAST WHITE MAN
First appeared in THE HOWARD COLLECTOR #5
THE NEW HOWARD READER #7 (Chpbk.)

A TWENTIETH-CENTURY RIP VAN WINKLE
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

That's sorta just my quick and obvious list. There are likely some very short fragments that would fit as well that don't come to mind right away, and I'm sure some would disagree with this list. Many of the Yellow Peril stories also feature super-science, stories like "Skull-Face". REH didn't exactly write to fit genres, he tended to work multiple angles of genres at once.

"The Challenge from Beyond" is likely the most "SciFi" of the stories, though he only wrote part of it. "People of the Winged Skulls" is almost a parody of the space alien comes to town. The last three are trying to glimpse the future.

If anyone thinks of another one I forgot, feel free to speak up.

Edited by godzilladude, 11 March 2008 - 02:55 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:41 PM

ALMURIC
First appeared as a 3-part serial in WEIRD TALES: May 1939; June-July 1939; and August 1939
ALMURIC, Ace and New English Library
ALMURIC, Grant, Berkley, and Sphere
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO
ALMURIC, Pulpville Press
ALMURIC, Paizo Press
ALMURIC, Leonaur

BLACK HOUND OF DEATH
First appeared in WEIRD TALES, November 1936
WEIRD TALES, Neville-Spearman, Carroll & Graf and Xanadu (Anth.)
DARK PHANTASMS #1 (Chpbk.)
WEIRD TALES, VOLUME 1, Sphere (Anth.)
TRAILS IN DARKNESS
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO

BLACK WIND BLOWING
First appeared in THRILLING MYSTERY, June 1936
THE BOOK OF ROBERT E. HOWARD
PULP REVIEW #5
GRAVEYARD RATS AND OTHERS
THE ROBERT E. HOWARD READER, VOLUME ONE

THE GONDARIAN MAN
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #6
THE NEW HOWARD READER #4 (Chpbk.)

THE LAST LAUGH
Alternate title: Untitled (?The rising sun was behind the wild figure.?)
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #9
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)
An untitled incomplete work

THE SUPREME MOMENT
First appeared in CRYPT OF CTHULHU #25 (Chpbk.)
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)

THE VALLEY OF THE LOST (1, ?Jim Brill licked his parched lips . . .?)
Alternate title: KING OF THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE
First appeared in MAGAZINE OF HORROR #13
THE GODS OF BAL-SAGOTH
BEYOND THE BORDERS

PEOPLE OF THE WINGED SKULLS
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE COLLECTED LETTERS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 1: 1923-1929

THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND
By Robert E. Howard, C.L. Moore, A. Merritt, HPL, & Frank Belknap Long
First appeared in FANTASY MAGAZINE, September 1935
BEYOND THE WALLS OF SLEEP (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Pennsylvania Dutch Cheese Press (FAPA)
HORRORS UNKNOWN (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Necronomicon
NAMELESS CULTS
SWORD AND FANTASY #4
THE ROAD TO VELITRIUM #49 (Chpbk.)
THE CROSS PLAINSMAN, December 2005 (Chpbk.)
BEYOND THE BLACK RIVER: THE WEIRD WORKS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 7

THE LAST MAN
Alternate title: Untitled (?The flaming sun of the year 2000 . . .?)
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

THE LAST WHITE MAN
First appeared in THE HOWARD COLLECTOR #5
THE NEW HOWARD READER #7 (Chpbk.)

A TWENTIETH-CENTURY RIP VAN WINKLE
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

That's sorta just my quick and obvious list. There are likely some very short fragments that would fit as well that don't come to mind right away, and I'm sure some would disagree with this list. Many of the Yellow Peril stories also feature super-science, stories like "Skull-Face". REH didn't exactly write to fit genres, he tended to work multiple angles of genres at once.

"The Challenge from Beyond" is likely the most "SciFi" of the stories, though he only wrote part of it. "People of the Winged Skulls" is almost a parody of the space alien comes to town. The last three are trying to glimpse the future.

If anyone thinks of another one I forgot, feel free to speak up.

This list would indicate enough material for a Del Rey "Science Fiction" volume for REH.

Rusty....get to work!!!

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 08:20 PM

ALMURIC
First appeared as a 3-part serial in WEIRD TALES: May 1939; June-July 1939; and August 1939
ALMURIC, Ace and New English Library
ALMURIC, Grant, Berkley, and Sphere
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO
ALMURIC, Pulpville Press
ALMURIC, Paizo Press
ALMURIC, Leonaur

BLACK HOUND OF DEATH
First appeared in WEIRD TALES, November 1936
WEIRD TALES, Neville-Spearman, Carroll & Graf and Xanadu (Anth.)
DARK PHANTASMS #1 (Chpbk.)
WEIRD TALES, VOLUME 1, Sphere (Anth.)
TRAILS IN DARKNESS
THE WEIRD WRITINGS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME TWO

BLACK WIND BLOWING
First appeared in THRILLING MYSTERY, June 1936
THE BOOK OF ROBERT E. HOWARD
PULP REVIEW #5
GRAVEYARD RATS AND OTHERS
THE ROBERT E. HOWARD READER, VOLUME ONE

THE GONDARIAN MAN
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #6
THE NEW HOWARD READER #4 (Chpbk.)

THE LAST LAUGH
Alternate title: Untitled (?The rising sun was behind the wild figure.?)
First appeared in FANTASY CROSSROADS #9
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)
An untitled incomplete work

THE SUPREME MOMENT
First appeared in CRYPT OF CTHULHU #25 (Chpbk.)
THE NEW HOWARD READER #1 (Chpbk.)

THE VALLEY OF THE LOST (1, ?Jim Brill licked his parched lips . . .?)
Alternate title: KING OF THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE
First appeared in MAGAZINE OF HORROR #13
THE GODS OF BAL-SAGOTH
BEYOND THE BORDERS

PEOPLE OF THE WINGED SKULLS
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE COLLECTED LETTERS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 1: 1923-1929

THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND
By Robert E. Howard, C.L. Moore, A. Merritt, HPL, & Frank Belknap Long
First appeared in FANTASY MAGAZINE, September 1935
BEYOND THE WALLS OF SLEEP (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Pennsylvania Dutch Cheese Press (FAPA)
HORRORS UNKNOWN (Anth.)
THE CHALLENGE FROM BEYOND, Necronomicon
NAMELESS CULTS
SWORD AND FANTASY #4
THE ROAD TO VELITRIUM #49 (Chpbk.)
THE CROSS PLAINSMAN, December 2005 (Chpbk.)
BEYOND THE BLACK RIVER: THE WEIRD WORKS OF ROBERT E. HOWARD, VOLUME 7

THE LAST MAN
Alternate title: Untitled (?The flaming sun of the year 2000 . . .?)
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

THE LAST WHITE MAN
First appeared in THE HOWARD COLLECTOR #5
THE NEW HOWARD READER #7 (Chpbk.)

A TWENTIETH-CENTURY RIP VAN WINKLE
First appeared in THE LAST OF THE TRUNK OCH BREV I URVAL (Chpbk.)
THE LAST OF THE TRUNK

That's sorta just my quick and obvious list. There are likely some very short fragments that would fit as well that don't come to mind right away, and I'm sure some would disagree with this list. Many of the Yellow Peril stories also feature super-science, stories like "Skull-Face". REH didn't exactly write to fit genres, he tended to work multiple angles of genres at once.

"The Challenge from Beyond" is likely the most "SciFi" of the stories, though he only wrote part of it. "People of the Winged Skulls" is almost a parody of the space alien comes to town. The last three are trying to glimpse the future.

If anyone thinks of another one I forgot, feel free to speak up.

This list would indicate enough material for a Del Rey "Science Fiction" volume for REH.

Rusty....get to work!!!


thanks folks! i recall seeing a collection of clark ashton smith's science fiction in one of those presses that charge an arm and a leg for a volume printed in only 300 copies on the virgin velum made from the placenta of an unhatched platypus or something similar....... :rolleyes:

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:31 AM

Did Robert E Howard write any Science Fiction stories? How many? Would there even enough stories total to make a collected stories book? What were they about?

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 01:17 PM

Did Robert E Howard write any Science Fiction stories? How many? Would there even enough stories total to make a collected stories book? What were they about?


Without stretching the definition, Howard's only sci-fi story was a planetary romance ala John Carter named Almuric. Type the name into the search function, there's PLENTY of threads about it. It was an unfinished novel that was completely by someone (again check the threads for speculation as to who) and appeared in Weird Tales and later as a paperback.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:44 PM

The late, great Steve Tompkins wrote an article examining most of REH's sci-fi yarns entitled "Newer Barbarians". It was published in The Cimmerian, V5n1.

Hope that helps. :)

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:25 PM

Steve and I talked on the phone when he was researching "Newer Barbarians." I have a near complete run of PLANET STORIES and gave Steve information on what the magazine was like. There were quite a few barbarians on other worlds stories clearly influenced by Howard in PLANET (enough to do an anthology).
I have a long essay about ALMURIC called "The First Posthumous Collaborator" in the December 2008 issue of THE CIMMERIAN. IF you want to read it, order it right now as August 31 is a cutoff date for buying them.

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The late, great Steve Tompkins wrote an article examining most of REH's sci-fi yarns entitled "Newer Barbarians". It was published in The Cimmerian, V5n1.

Hope that helps. :)


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:46 PM

I have a long essay about ALMURIC called "The First Posthumous Collaborator" in the December 2008 issue of THE CIMMERIAN. IF you want to read it, order it right now as August 31 is a cutoff date for buying them.

Morgan


Hey Morgan! IF you're referring to me, I own the entire 2008 run of TCs. Your "Almuric" article was really informative. B) I also urge anyone else to get the issues they want NOW, because time is running out.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:57 PM

Hi Deuce: I figured you had the issues. I was using "you" in a plural sense. I see your part of the country has been pretty hot the past few weeks. We are finally getting some real summer weather in the Great Lakes. Gave me an excuse to take over cooking supper last night. Got some beautiful rib-eye steaks that I marinated in red wine, ground black pepper, a little garlic salt, and dash of oregeno and grilled those last night. Could have cut them with a fork. Hmmm...beef. No finer meat.

Morgan

Hey Morgan! IF you're referring to me, I own the entire 2008 run of TCs. Your "Almuric" article was really informative. B) I also urge anyone else to get the issues they want NOW, because time is running out.


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Posted 03 September 2009 - 03:10 AM

is there a list of stories by howard that could be termed science fiction more than fantasy, such as almuric? has anybody tried to measure howard's contribution to science fiction?


Besides everything in Paul's list, I would add People of the Black Coast. REH actually prefigures concepts that Lovecraft came up with later in in tales like At the Mountains of Madness. As Steve Tompkins pointed out in "Newer Barbarians", Howard would've had a decent amount of room to work with in the more adventure-oriented pulps of the '40s and '50s.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:11 PM

The REH Foundation is putting out a collection of Howard's sci-fi tales. Check out the table of contents here (scroll down):

http://rehtwogunraconteur.com/?p=15400

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 06:35 AM

The REH Foundation is putting out a collection of Howard's sci-fi tales. Check out the table of contents here (scroll down):

http://rehtwogunraconteur.com/?p=15400

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This looks good. It'll definitely be on my reading list for 2012!

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 01:37 PM

The editors of this book might want to take note of the fact that Lovecraft's segment oof "The Challenge from Beyond", as published, has text missing as compared to the original Ms. which was published in Lovecraft's Miscellaneous Writings. Parts of HPL's segment make more sense in this version.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

How is this book coming along? (I was hoping to see it up for pre-order! :) )

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:49 PM

How is this book coming along? (I was hoping to see it up for pre-order! :) )


Soon. Very soon.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:14 PM


How is this book coming along? (I was hoping to see it up for pre-order! :) )


Soon. Very soon.

Rob


You tease! ;)

No, seriously, thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:46 AM

Just posted the cover for this:

http://www.rehfounda...sy-coming-soon/

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