7156 replies to this topic

[norse_sage]

Precisely. Given the special effects already in the movie, and the resources at hand; changing one persons eyecolour in closeups is such a small, trivial, quick, easy and cheap thing to do that there is no practical reason at all why they shouldn't.

[Taranaich]

I'm wondering how the film is going to convey this. As a montage? That would be a prime opportunity to throw REH fans a bone or two.

It would be simultaneously awesome and depressing to see scenes from actual Robert E. Howard stories in a Conan film rendered as... a montage. Fighting the spider from "The Tower of the Elephant." Attacking Stygian ships with the Black Corsairs in "Queen of the Black Coast." Wrestling with Thak in "Rogues in the House." Slaying the Ice-Giants from "The Frost-Giant's Daughter." Scaling the walls of Aztrias Petanius' temple in "The God in the Bowl." All on screen, yet only Howard fans would truly get the impact from them. Talk about bittersweet.

[Gin-Wulf]

I'm wondering how the film is going to convey this. As a montage? That would be a prime opportunity to throw REH fans a bone or two.

It would be simultaneously awesome and depressing to see scenes from actual Robert E. Howard stories in a Conan film rendered as... a montage. Fighting the spider from "The Tower of the Elephant." Attacking Stygian ships with the Black Corsairs in "Queen of the Black Coast." Wrestling with Thak in "Rogues in the House." Slaying the Ice-Giants from "The Frost-Giant's Daughter." Scaling the walls of Aztrias Petanius' temple in "The God in the Bowl." All on screen, yet only Howard fans would truly get the impact from them. Talk about bittersweet.

i was wondering the same. im thinking it will be a montage with a narration voice over it.
maybe the story starts with the girl /kingdom conan saves telling a story , give a lil back ground and then meet conan were his story insects with theres.
if momoa stays as conan for future films a montage may not be bad, then they can give us prequels of thieving and pirating or do future ones of him being king.

[Garzo]

I for one don't mind about the actor's eye color not matching Conan's literary description. It's not a make or break deal for me. More importantly for me is Momoa's characterization -- does he capture Conan's spirit, his voice, his presence? If the actor's eyes had been naturally blue, fine, but CGI or contact lenses often look fake and can take the viewer out of the film.

Let's say Momoa nails Conan's spirit, voice and presence - wouldn't it irk you no end that he has brown and sensual eyes? It would irk me, in fact it does already.
His eyecolour is something so easily fixed that not to do so would be inexcusable.

A different eyecolour rarely takes anyone out of the film, maybe if we were taking about a huge celebrity like Will Smith or something yes, but for Momoa, a face without baggage, I doubt very much anyone would taken away from the story by him having blue eyes. If anything, it would help in singling him out as a stranger in a strange land.

Of course if they are able to convincingly change his eye color I have nothing against it and even welcome it. I just meant it wasn't a big deal to me if if they did not. The key is making it look real. The last Superman film had an actor with dark eyes wearing blue contact lenses and it looked like Superman wearing blue contact lenses -- it actually robbed the actor of some expression because, as they say, the eyes are the windows to the soul and they have a lot of natural expression and character.

If the VFX team on Conan can do a perfect job on the eyes, then more power to them. But if Conan ends up with eerie, unnatural-looking eyes, or as if he has bluish cataracts, then they should not bother because it will look just too fake.

Momoa already has light greenish colored eyes, they don't look that dark to me.

[stonecold-mike]

I for one don't mind about the actor's eye color not matching Conan's literary description. It's not a make or break deal for me. More importantly for me is Momoa's characterization -- does he capture Conan's spirit, his voice, his presence? If the actor's eyes had been naturally blue, fine, but CGI or contact lenses often look fake and can take the viewer out of the film.

Let's say Momoa nails Conan's spirit, voice and presence - wouldn't it irk you no end that he has brown and sensual eyes? It would irk me, in fact it does already.
His eyecolour is something so easily fixed that not to do so would be inexcusable.

A different eyecolour rarely takes anyone out of the film, maybe if we were taking about a huge celebrity like Will Smith or something yes, but for Momoa, a face without baggage, I doubt very much anyone would taken away from the story by him having blue eyes. If anything, it would help in singling him out as a stranger in a strange land.

Momoa already has light greenish colored eyes, they don't look that dark to me.

My feeling is mutual.

[stonecold-mike]

I'm wondering how the film is going to convey this. As a montage? That would be a prime opportunity to throw REH fans a bone or two.

It would be simultaneously awesome and depressing to see scenes from actual Robert E. Howard stories in a Conan film rendered as... a montage. Fighting the spider from "The Tower of the Elephant." Attacking Stygian ships with the Black Corsairs in "Queen of the Black Coast." Wrestling with Thak in "Rogues in the House." Slaying the Ice-Giants from "The Frost-Giant's Daughter." Scaling the walls of Aztrias Petanius' temple in "The God in the Bowl." All on screen, yet only Howard fans would truly get the impact from them. Talk about bittersweet.

I would like to see Conan fight the boar-like creature(or a similar looking one) from "The Snout In The Dark". I know it's not an entirely Howard-written story, but I've always found that monster's appearence much to my liking for some reason.

[Libaax]

Trust me guys you wont think about looking at his eye color when you are seeing the film. Important things like writing,story,action scenes will be the things you will judge and see faults in before eye color....

Edited by Libaax, 11 May 2011 - 07:20 PM.

[Anastasia]

Momoa vs. Schwarzenegger

this is pretty funny

My link

And in case anybody has not seen Conan the Musical -- it will have you on the floor ...

My link

That is funny!! Jason is so much more "potent" with his physicality and presence than Arnie was as Conan.

[Waldgeist]

Official Still with Jason Momoa as Conan with blue eyes.

Edited by Waldgeist, 11 May 2011 - 10:21 PM.

[Conan the Cimmerian]

Bravo Stefane ! A sad, da se pridruzim i ja!

SCREAM FOR ME REH FORUM!! We want Conan with blue eyes! We want Conan with blue eyes! We want Conan with blue eyes!......

Fine, but first you must play "Hallowed Be Thy Name!"

[monk]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

[Roargathor]

Momoa looks allot bigger in the poster than he does in the stills and trailer. I'm pretty sure they photoshopped someone elses arms and shoulder.

[Eli]

Official trailer.

Clash of the Scorpion King.

Edited by Eli, 11 May 2011 - 10:32 PM.

[amster]

Clash of the Scorpion King.

I don't understand your criticism (assuming its meant to be a criticism). Care to eloborate?

[amster]

I'm wondering how the film is going to convey this. As a montage? That would be a prime opportunity to throw REH fans a bone or two.

It would be simultaneously awesome and depressing to see scenes from actual Robert E. Howard stories in a Conan film rendered as... a montage. Fighting the spider from "The Tower of the Elephant." Attacking Stygian ships with the Black Corsairs in "Queen of the Black Coast." Wrestling with Thak in "Rogues in the House." Slaying the Ice-Giants from "The Frost-Giant's Daughter." Scaling the walls of Aztrias Petanius' temple in "The God in the Bowl." All on screen, yet only Howard fans would truly get the impact from them. Talk about bittersweet.

I agree for the most part, and I would be quite upset if they poisoned the well for Queen of the Black Coast, but I'm assuming that the action in the film commences after the "thief" period, so I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of the other stuff thrown in, if only to show that these things "happened" in this universe, as opposed to a completely new timeline like in the previous film.

[indestructibleman]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

why would that bother anyone?

[monk]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

why would that bother anyone?

because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.

[KG Thunder]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

why would that bother anyone?

because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.

We have to remember that most movie posters aren't made to be examined too closely, but are just meant to catch and hopefully excite the eye of the casual moviegoer. Compared with all the other over-photoshopped crap that passes for movie posters these days, I think this one is particularly good and will help put more butts in the seats.

-It's also really refreshing to see a modern fantasy/action movie poster without the overused orange and blue color scheme.

[amster]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

why would that bother anyone?

because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.

We have to remember that most movie posters aren't made to be examined too closely, but are just meant to catch and hopefully excite the eye of the casual moviegoer. Compared with all the other over-photoshopped crap that passes for movie posters these days, I think this one is particularly good and will help put more butts in the seats.

-It's also really refreshing to see a modern fantasy/action movie poster without the overused orange and blue color scheme.

Dear lord, its the poster controversy, part deux. Are we really going to go through all of this again?

[monk]

nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?

why would that bother anyone?

because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.

We have to remember that most movie posters aren't made to be examined too closely, but are just meant to catch and hopefully excite the eye of the casual moviegoer. Compared with all the other over-photoshopped crap that passes for movie posters these days, I think this one is particularly good and will help put more butts in the seats.

-It's also really refreshing to see a modern fantasy/action movie poster without the overused orange and blue color scheme.

i dunno kg, there's three guys who it seems like conan killed, but another guy well within the cutting arc who doesn't look like he is recoiling from a bad fart, and now it looks like there are even a couple floating detached weapons.

I guess, personally, I don't like things that seem to look good on a quick glance but then don't. it makes me feel like the creator thinks I'm a sucker whose not going to notice.