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#5521 indestructibleman

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 02:18 AM

And if they already said they will make his eyes blue, what does it cost changing the colour of somebody's eyes compared to all the cgi and tricks, stuff, props and all they actually add to the film? Nothing. With today's technology, it's probably just a few mouse clicks if it was too awkward for Momoa to wear contacts during the scenes because of the dust, sand, dirt and such.


it's a hell of a lot of tracking, which is painstaking, tedious work. though the computer can track some stuff most of it will have to be done by hand. in the grand scheme of things it's probably not that expensive but it's a crap job to get stuck with.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 02:20 AM



nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?



why would that bother anyone?



because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.



what doesn't make sense? no big errors are jumping out at me. it's certainly not like the Dark Knight posters.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 02:44 AM


Clash of the Scorpion King.


I don't understand your criticism (assuming its meant to be a criticism). Care to eloborate?

The trailer reminds me of the modern day version of Clash of the Titans and The Scorpion King. Both of these films were below average IMO and performed poorly at the theaters.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 02:57 AM

this looks nothing like those movies to me, scorpion king was bad, it looked bad from start, the rok is way to "nice" looking in face and sounding in voice to make me feel he was a bad ass assassin . the clash of the titans remake looked great even if the story was even farther of from the legend than the original movie.
and for the ones saying it looks like the pirates movies,, so those are pretty good movies and look great ,and sense they keep making them they gotta be doing good.
i really cant wait to see this movie after the trailer, i hope for the best will be happy if im not angry when i leave the theater ;)

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 03:09 AM

Actually, the Clash of the Titans remake did well. Even though audiences hated it. Critics hated it. The cast hated it. The director hated it.

Naturally, they're doing a sequel. :o
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:33 AM



Clash of the Scorpion King.


I don't understand your criticism (assuming its meant to be a criticism). Care to eloborate?

The trailer reminds me of the modern day version of Clash of the Titans and The Scorpion King. Both of these films were below average IMO and performed poorly at the theaters.


The trailer I saw looked nothing like either of those films. In fact, those films don't even look like each other, except maybe if every type of exotic weapon, locale (CGI or otherwise), and costime looks the "same" to you. And as it happens, The Scorpion King did quite well at the box office in 2002, pulling in an impressive 165 million dollars. At a budget of 60 million, it was hardly a "B" film, except maybe in tone, which was obviously intentional on the part of the filmakers. At a budget of 90 million, I'll bet Lionsgate will be quite pleased with Conan if it pulls in 165 million. And I'm not ashamed to admit that I quite enjoyed the Scorpion King for what it was, a light sword and sorcery romp in the tradition of Conan, but not to be taken too seriously. It certainly had a more serious tone than Conan the Destroyer or Red Sonja. As for Titans, there was certainly nothing wrong with the "look" of the film, as it had A-list production values. Titans suffered from a bad and pointless re-write that butchered a perfectly good story.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:49 AM

what doesn't make sense? no big errors are jumping out at me. it's certainly not like the Dark Knight posters.



indy- there's three guys who it seems like conan killed, but another guy well within the cutting arc of his swing who doesn't look like he is recoiling from a bad fart, and now it looks like there are even a couple floating detached weapons, some spears floating around. and he's kind of not looking at anyone. that in and of itself doesn't bother me too much, but when combined...it's annoying because i know now he wasn't looking at any of it lol.

in my reply to kg, I said:

"I guess, personally, I don't like things that seem to look good on a quick glance but then don't. it makes me feel like the creator thinks I'm a sucker whose not going to notice."

I feel like we, as consumers, deserve the best. then again, the market seems to constantly prove me wrong, hence the existence of things like olive garden and subway lol.

still it's hands and above and away better than that travesty with the skulls. at least they understand composition.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:03 AM

Actually, the Clash of the Titans remake did well. Even though audiences hated it. Critics hated it. The cast hated it. The director hated it.

Naturally, they're doing a sequel. :o


Sigh...Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 06:37 AM





nobody else is bothered that it seems like this poster is a composited image...?



why would that bother anyone?



because it's kind of corny? if you look at the poster, it sort of stops making sense when you actually examine it. it stops making sense, because as ronan pointed out, they flipped Momoa's layer etc etc etc.


We have to remember that most movie posters aren't made to be examined too closely, but are just meant to catch and hopefully excite the eye of the casual moviegoer. Compared with all the other over-photoshopped crap that passes for movie posters these days, I think this one is particularly good and will help put more butts in the seats.

-It's also really refreshing to see a modern fantasy/action movie poster without the overused orange and blue color scheme.


Dear lord, its the poster controversy, part deux. <_< Are we really going to go through all of this again? :blink:



forget about that! let's bet a beer over the role of the faaaaaadaaa's sword!
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ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:10 AM

One thing I'm tired of reading on other forums is this notion that Jason is some whimpy metrosexual Conan, where as Arnold was super barbaric, manly and "the PERFECT Conan. Exactly how Howard described him".

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Riiiight...

Edited by KG Thunder, 12 May 2011 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:51 AM

I can't help but get the feeling, that several people just try hard to find something negative they can complain about and completely loose the focus or sight on any positive that comes out. Pages and pages you rant about Momoa needing blue eyes, then Lionsgate release an official still with Momoa having blue eyes and all you do is just shut up about it. Not a single "oh that's nice" or something positive, no we just move on to another negative topic we can bitch about, even if we have to invent one (like amsterdamaged pointed out... no the trailers doesn't look like every trailer ever released, not by a long shot).

Criticize all you want, but stay reasonable and for gods sake, loose the focused negative attitude out of principle. Yes there will be things in this movie, that will not please you, but over the last couple of weeks, they have released stuff that should really please most of us and we should also talk about those and not go into nitpick mode, to find every tiny bit of shit we can bitch about. It's tiresome.

Just an example. The last poster is a good interpretation of a typical Frazetta scene and looks a bit like a Conan Comic frame. Great! They obviously been checking the other stuff out there and the result is really classic. But no.. we have to find something negative.. ahh yeah I know it's made with photoshop. Duh. How bad, let's bitch. Monk? :D... every movie poster of the last 15 years has been made with photoshop and they also look like it. You must be having a really unpleasant cinema session everytime, when you bitch about that.

Focus... stay reasonable.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:44 AM

really looking forward to seeing this film.It really looks terrific.Production claues look great, momoa looks maghnificent.
In the King Kong production diaries they showed the weta fella's altering Naomi Watts eye colour, it took about 30 seconds !

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:52 AM

heres the diary, all about altering colour etc http://img-nex.kongi...Go_qt6_high.mov

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:02 AM

Armour is for wusses.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:03 AM

heres the diary, all about altering colour etc http://img-nex.kongi...Go_qt6_high.mov


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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:32 AM

They're missing out on a good bet if they don't recolor his eyes blue.

If you look at some of the old technicolor movies where they used European actors to play characters who were of one of the brown-skinned races, you will see actors with blue eyes wearing brown makeup. Their eyes seemed to glow, bluely, if I may say so, like blue fire within their brown faces.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 01:59 PM

Crom, what a post!

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 02:10 PM

Is that "What a post!" as in you did or did not like it? Just curious. I do hope y'all find it usefull or interesting.
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 03:07 PM

Is that "What a post!" as in you did or did not like it? Just curious. I do hope y'all find it usefull or interesting.
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A very welcomed and informative post, thanks! Just a big one.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 03:12 PM

a very good post :D i die laughing everytime i read green boots ,i dont know why but all of a sudden he looks like peter pan when i read that :lol:
it seems conan wore thing a far cry from the fur and leather we see him in today in almost every depiction of him ;)