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Posted 15 September 2009 - 02:23 PM

Actually the reviews how negative they might made me want to see the movie unlike before them.


The thing about serious actors is promising. I want to see it now and hope it atleast gets to DVD over here.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 02:31 PM

It reminds me of the old story. A guy jumps off the top of the Empire State Building. As he plummets past an open window on the 80th floor a cleaning guy inside shouts out to him, "How's it going?" The guy replies, "So far, so good!" That's how I feel about the reviews to date. So far, so good.

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Agreed, that's the general feeling I'm getting too. Once the show goes out to a larger audience, you never know the kind of idiocy that may be found among reviews. I'm not saying all negative reviews are idiotic, but the way critics sometimes analyze films can be found wanting.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:58 PM

Comments on a few scattered comments:

I had the exact same thought as crossplain pilgrim on the "double shooting" when I watched the trailer a very few minutes ago ("...it does not appear to be so utterly out of the question...."). I also agree with his concern about the implications of the reviewer's not backed-up comment re: the crucifixion, "...a ridiculous scene in a ridiculous movie...." Which brings me to:

Concerning the victim of a crucifixion freeing himself: In Cyborg Jean-Claude Van Damme's character was, as the title would suggest, more than human making that one a bad example (I think; the film was muddled and difficult to follow :blink: , and it has been nearly 20 years since the one and only time I've watched it, leaving me quite open to correction).

"Genre" does NOT mean "science fiction/fantasy/horror." The Western is a genre; the swashbuckler is a genre; War is a genre; comedy is a genre; soap opera is a genre, etc., etc., etc. The increasingly frequent misuse of this word is quite worrisome. :angry:

I guess that's it. I hope I haven't come across particularly harsh. ;)



First off, JCVD was in fact, not a cyborg in the movie, the girl he was escorting was.just to clear that up.:) and my feeling is that the critics can say what they want, I will judge the movie by my own standerds when i see it,and from the standpoint of a REH fan. i try not to be overly critical about movies involving charecters i love, but there are things that worrie me,for example SK fighting a huge balrog looking dude, being overly superhuman ect ect, but i have only seen a few seconds of preview so im gonna wait to level more worries/criticisms. im all abord the" so far so good" train:)
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:18 PM

Wow, it's almost as if they're watching a movie based on the stories of Robert E. Howard. ;)

Here's another one, this time from Sceen Daily. Generally positive again. Here's a taste.

"For those who prefer their action-adventure movies to be long on sword-fighting, black magic and clenched-teeth emoting, Solomon Kane will be a must-see."

What I found interesting about this review is once again I believe we have a reviewer who is a little condescending about the S&S genre. He writes:

"This idolatry produces an unapologetically square-jawed film whose simplistic black-and-white heroism sometimes slips into cheesiness." Cheesines used to mean low production values, but nowadays reviewers routinely use it to mean an old fashioned outlook, corrny lines, too traditional in its values, lacking modern sensibilities, Andy Hardy stuff.

But the guy somewhat redeems himself in my old S&S eyes whene he goes on to say:

"At first, the quaint quality of the proceedings feels like a detriment, but soon it begins to become a sort of virtue, recalling a time when adventure films didn't feel the need to include zany sidekicks or romantic subplots to keep an audience entertained."

Of course there should be quite a few more reviews coming after the Midnight Madness Screening. But for now, the clear majority of the advance reviews have been positive. It reminds me of the old story. A guy jumps off the top of the Empire State Building. As he plummets past an open window on the 80th floor a cleaning guy inside shouts out to him, "How's it going?" The guy replies, "So far, so good!" That's how I feel about the reviews to date. So far, so good.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:37 PM

Much of that comes down to the fact that Bassett has filled the cast with strong dramatic actors who tend to hold the film's gravitas. James Purefoy isn't bad as Kane, but he definitely turns it up a few too many notches as he barks out his lines and keeps things very serious, which makes it difficult to warm up to him as a character.

So basically what the reviewer is saying here is: "The dialogue is way to much howardian for the general audience to like it, we wan't contemporary babbling please, you know.. like like like like in Transformers like like like awesome and like like like cool".

Idiot film critics :)


Excuse me? The quote you present clearly refers to the way Purefoy delivers his lines, while your "translation" of it is just as clearly about how they are written. Two very different things, making your post indefensible. And please don't cite something else the reviewer said; if that was what you were talking about, that is what you should have quoted rather than what you did (pre-emptory shot fired based on my past experiences of people on the internet posting things that inconsistent with the reality of the situation at hand to avoid admitting they were out of line or in error; just trying to save us both a little time).

Excuse me? Did i attack you personally? Is the reviewer your friend? Whatever it is... please tone down on the overreaction part and especially on the pre-emptive accusation of being a typical internet idiot that is too much of a wuss to admit an error on his side, because that is very much a typical internet idiot behaviour to make another person look like a fool before he even made an error and a very cheap way of forum-magic.

I admit I interpreted into the text of the reviewer that he also criticized the lines and not only the tone, because to me a line like "if i kill you, i am bound for hell" cannot be delivered anything else than serious and i guess most of the dialogues Mr. Bassett has written for Solomon are that serious and therefore i assumed the critic was also directed at what Solomon has to say, since you cannot deliver seriously written dialogue in a non-serious way, if you are not aiming for false comedy.

So make of that interpretation whatever you want to make of it, but to me it's not ok to jump onto someone with such force, because you don't agree with his interpretation of a written text, without even knowing his rational.

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PS: the line "Idiot film critics" was btw. a comedic reuse of what amster just used two posts before mine, which was indicated by the widely used smilie to give it the right spin.


I was too busy when I found and read this yesterday to respond at that time. Simply put, he said one thing and you claimed he said something fundamentally different. Your "rationale" can't make that right. "Idiot film critics :) " was simply in the post that I reproduced. I had no problem with it in and of itself and said nothing whatsoever about it, so it didn't need defending (at least not until Strom subsequently posted his reminder of the rules, "...especially the no name calling.").

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:35 AM

Waldgeist has posted a list of reviews "so far" on his SK blog. There are some more out, but I'm sure they'll be posted there soon enough. Just cant wait to see the reviews that come out after the two big public screenings. Most of these are based on a "industry and press" screening done just before M.Bassett arrived in Toronto, according to his own blog. Speaking of which, in the comments section on Bassett's blog, frequent SK thread visitor Hollycole1 mentioned an "exclusive" SK featurette on MTV splashpages:http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/15/new-solomon-kane-featurette?get-your-first-look-here/.....its very short, but too cool for words...a must see, I must say....Good Hunting, chaps!!

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:49 PM

Easily the most positive review I have read so far:

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:27 PM

Hey, Strom. Unless I am "disremembering" it, this Reuters review is a re-print of the Hollywood Reporter reveiw. I thought this one particularly good to see because THR is an industry publication and is read by people who make decisions in La La Land. Beyond the quality of the film, they opine that it should do well with the S&S audience and ancillary markets.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 02:21 PM

Here's a review from Twitch. The reviewer likes the film and ends it with this bit:

I can only hope that the producers of the soon-to-be-revived Conan franchise are paying attention to this one because Solomon Kane is one excellent primer on how to tackle Howard and make him work for today's audiences. No theatrical release has been announced yet but seek it out when the time comes. This is a good one.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 03:20 PM

I don't speak for everyone else, but I'm more interested in your review :)

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 05:01 PM

Here's a TIFF review that just went up on the IMDB page:


This is like Star Wars and Dark Knight set in the 17th Century...., 17 September 2009
Author: Jamesbond1974 from Canada

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This film just (and I mean like 45 minutes ago), had it's North American Premier at the Toronto International Film Festival. This work was amazing. Set in 17th Century England, it had the feel of the Dark Knight, and Star Wars. Was both dark and gritty, with some laugh out loud parts as well. I was expecting something special, and that is what I got. I came in to the theatre with no information about Solomon Kane, and came out thinking, this early 20th century writer, who created this hero, was way ahead of his time. The Director/Writer (Michael J.Bassett), and the actor playing Solomon Kane (James Purefoy), this man is going to be big in North America. As it is 3:20 am, and the last film on my list, I am going to sign off. This film still has not had a distributor for North America, so some forward thinking company should pick this up. I am voting for James Purefoy to play the next villain in the up coming Batman franchise.


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Posted 17 September 2009 - 06:44 PM

Here's a TIFF review that just went up on the IMDB page:


This is like Star Wars and Dark Knight set in the 17th Century...., 17 September 2009
Author: Jamesbond1974 from Canada

*** This comment may contain spoilers ***

This film just (and I mean like 45 minutes ago), had it's North American Premier at the Toronto International Film Festival. This work was amazing. Set in 17th Century England, it had the feel of the Dark Knight, and Star Wars. Was both dark and gritty, with some laugh out loud parts as well. I was expecting something special, and that is what I got. I came in to the theatre with no information about Solomon Kane, and came out thinking, this early 20th century writer, who created this hero, was way ahead of his time. The Director/Writer (Michael J.Bassett), and the actor playing Solomon Kane (James Purefoy), this man is going to be big in North America. As it is 3:20 am, and the last film on my list, I am going to sign off. This film still has not had a distributor for North America, so some forward thinking company should pick this up. I am voting for James Purefoy to play the next villain in the up coming Batman franchise.


I say, if Christian Bale leaves the Bat-franchise(hope he doesn't, but if he does), Purefoy would probably be among my primary choices to replace him as Batman. That being said, I think he could make a very good Riddler or Hugo Strange.

Anyway, nice review.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 06:49 PM

First reviews trickle in from the fans:

Solomon Kane
Well, I'm still pretty shattered, after getting home at 4am last night from the screening (which I hadn't even realised was the first ever public screening in the world, Cannes being a private audience, of course). A full review (in both spoilerific and spoiler-free flavours) will come when I can collect my thoughts properly.

But, in short, it freaking rocked. Robert E Howard fans take heart; Solomon Kane will be held up alongside the Lord of The Rings trilogy as one of the great fantasy masterpieces. And fantasy fans take heart too; this film, like Lord of The Rings, offers up proof that the fantasy genre offers a majestic presence, and an intensity of story-telling that cinema has only just begun to engage with. Intense, emotionally powerful, and stunningly beautiful (which an odd turn of phrase for a film that is so often going out of it's way to be ugly), this is a film that knows what it is, and respects itself for it.

Other thought: Solomon Kane is a fantasy movie in the grand style of Lord of The Rings, and defiantly so, but it is also it's own animal, and maintains a style that is distinct, and unique. It stands alongside, but it's stands on it's own two feet.

Brits on my friends list will be pleased to know that, lucky bastards like me aside, they'll probably be the first to get their mitts on this film, since European distribution is locked down, whilst North America is still up in the air. Not surprising as the film is almost entirely a British project.

To quote the director: "This is Britain. We don't do big fantasy epics!"
Well, we bloody well should, if this what the results look like.


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Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:35 PM

First reviews trickle in from the fans:

Solomon Kane
Well, I'm still pretty shattered, after getting home at 4am last night from the screening (which I hadn't even realised was the first ever public screening in the world, Cannes being a private audience, of course). A full review (in both spoilerific and spoiler-free flavours) will come when I can collect my thoughts properly.

But, in short, it freaking rocked. Robert E Howard fans take heart; Solomon Kane will be held up alongside the Lord of The Rings trilogy as one of the great fantasy masterpieces. And fantasy fans take heart too; this film, like Lord of The Rings, offers up proof that the fantasy genre offers a majestic presence, and an intensity of story-telling that cinema has only just begun to engage with. Intense, emotionally powerful, and stunningly beautiful (which an odd turn of phrase for a film that is so often going out of it's way to be ugly), this is a film that knows what it is, and respects itself for it.

Other thought: Solomon Kane is a fantasy movie in the grand style of Lord of The Rings, and defiantly so, but it is also it's own animal, and maintains a style that is distinct, and unique. It stands alongside, but it's stands on it's own two feet.

Brits on my friends list will be pleased to know that, lucky bastards like me aside, they'll probably be the first to get their mitts on this film, since European distribution is locked down, whilst North America is still up in the air. Not surprising as the film is almost entirely a British project.

To quote the director: "This is Britain. We don't do big fantasy epics!"
Well, we bloody well should, if this what the results look like.


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Haha, awesome review. In spite of me being so excited for the film, as I live in the UK I should hurry up and read some Solomon Kane, as I have to admit, I am yet to do so...

Edited by NonStop, 17 September 2009 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 18 September 2009 - 12:55 AM

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 01:03 AM

hmmm , nice couple of reviews . And nary a mention/comparison of VanHelsing/Vampire HunterD/Chakan/ or any other Kaneclones of recent years . I've refrained from looking at any leaked or early scripts , or trailers or anything - I want to make up my own mind fresh when I see the film-makers 'final' version . but this talk of a 'crucifixion' scene , c'mon man ! - MORE pinching bits & pieces from 'other' unrelated REH stories ala Milius ? We are now NEVER going to see a faithful "A Witch is Born" adaptation right ? One of Howards best stories . imagine the general audiences comments " WOW , That Howard guy sure loved his crucifixions didn't he ? There's just about one in EVERY SINGLE story/movie based on his characters right ! "

I just hope it's not a thrown-in 'gimmie' in this Kane movie , if it sets up some fierce Inquisition/Catholic/vs/Protestant/Heretic atmosphere , well 'maybe' :unsure: Those things without a doubt had the entire world on fire & at war during Kanes era & after . & Hope there's just no 'dabbling' with those concepts tho , if you're going to say something - then like Howard might say - let's out with it !!

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 02:01 AM

I found this under "Midnight Madness Review #7." I guess I should try to dig up those other six. This is another very positive review. I hope this is a developing pattern. The reviewer mentions this is the kind of movie liked to see when he was 12 or 13, and that it is still the kind of movie he likes to see. My thoughts exactly. Alas, not a whole lot of classic adventure films being made these days. Hopefully for Kane their are a lot of guys who think like me out there. Somehow, however, that is a very disturbing thought. Well here's the link.

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As to the crucifixion scene in Kane, PB, Kane is not nailed up by religious fanatics, but henchmen of the evil wizard. The Protestants and Catholics are both guiltless. IMO by the time Millennium Films ever gets around to filming "A Wtich Is Born," there will be very few people who saw "Solomon Kane" alive to notice the similarity.
A wild moon rode in the wild white clouds,
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.

"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 05:01 AM

Here are some very personal opinions on the SK reviews.

1. Of the reviews I have found, the positive reviews to date outnumber the negative ones about 3 to 1, maybe a little more. For now.
2. The reviewers that really like the movie, tend to be fans of the Sword and Sorcery, while the ones who don't like it, are usually dismissive of the entire genre. One guy mentioned he had never read REH and I got the feeling he would find it distasteful if anyone suggested he should.
3. The negative reviewers tend to be irritated or puzzled that Kane has a dead serious tone. Something as cheesy as S&S should have some laughs.
4. I have not posted the negative reviews. I'll leave that to others. I would like to be more even-handed, but the truth is the negative reviews irritate me. I have yet to read a thoughtful negative review. The negative reviewers that I have read exude a distaste for this kind of film in general and write like they can't wait to get it over with. One guy pretty much just posted a synopsis of the film and then in the final paragraph said "Kane" was too much like that "Conan the Barbarian" movie. Nothing new here. Just like all those many other S&S films. I notice that the guys who knock the film seem to assume there have been a lot of Sword and Sorcery flicks in recent years, which is very much wrong. I would have a lot more respect for one of these guys if he would exhibit some familiarity with the genre, not to mention an affection or at least some respect. Perhaps they could actually reference some other S&S films and contrast what they perceive as the shortcomings in "Kane" with those many other S&S films they have seen.
5. I think the Hollywood Reporter review has it right. "Kane" is going to be a big hit with the S&S, Sci-Fi, and Horror fans, but challenged to cut a swath through the mainstream audiences. When it finally does arrive on DVD, it is going to be a very big seller (there are a lot of fantasy/horror fans out there) and will almost certainly become a genre classic along the lines of "Brotherhood of the Wolf."
6. IMO, it isn't the quality of this film that is hindering it from getting distribution. I think it is the fact that the makers of Kane took a serious, no-nonsense approach to the story. S&S films are supposed to be silly like "Conan the Destroyer" or "The Scorpion King." If it had a soft and jiggly center of adolescent humor I think the distributors would be much less nervous about its potential on an American circuit.
7. This is just the kind of movie I would like to see.
A wild moon rode in the wild white clouds,
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.

"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 06:31 AM

I found this under "Midnight Madness Review #7." I guess I should try to dig up those other six. This is another very positive review. I hope this is a developing pattern. The reviewer mentions this is the kind of movie liked to see when he was 12 or 13, and that it is still the kind of movie he likes to see. My thoughts exactly. Alas, not a whole lot of classic adventure films being made these days. Hopefully for Kane their are a lot of guys who think like me out there. Somehow, however, that is a very disturbing thought. Well here's the link.

Review

As to the crucifixion scene in Kane, PB, Kane is not nailed up by religious fanatics, but henchmen of the evil wizard. The Protestants and Catholics are both guiltless. IMO by the time Millennium Films ever gets around to filming "A Wtich Is Born," there will be very few people who saw "Solomon Kane" alive to notice the similarity.

What a great review! Made my day! :)
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Posted 18 September 2009 - 08:12 AM

Here are some very personal opinions on the SK reviews.

1. Of the reviews I have found, the positive reviews to date outnumber the negative ones about 3 to 1, maybe a little more. For now.
2. The reviewers that really like the movie, tend to be fans of the Sword and Sorcery, while the ones who don't like it, are usually dismissive of the entire genre. One guy mentioned he had never read REH and I got the feeling he would find it distasteful if anyone suggested he should.
3. The negative reviewers tend to be irritated or puzzled that Kane has a dead serious tone. Something as cheesy as S&S should have some laughs.
4. I have not posted the negative reviews. I'll leave that to others. I would like to be more even-handed, but the truth is the negative reviews irritate me. I have yet to read a thoughtful negative review. The negative reviewers that I have read exude a distaste for this kind of film in general and write like they can't wait to get it over with. One guy pretty much just posted a synopsis of the film and then in the final paragraph said "Kane" was too much like that "Conan the Barbarian" movie. Nothing new here. Just like all those many other S&S films. I notice that the guys who knock the film seem to assume there have been a lot of Sword and Sorcery flicks in recent years, which is very much wrong. I would have a lot more respect for one of these guys if he would exhibit some familiarity with the genre, not to mention an affection or at least some respect. Perhaps they could actually reference some other S&S films and contrast what they perceive as the shortcomings in "Kane" with those many other S&S films they have seen.
5. I think the Hollywood Reporter review has it right. "Kane" is going to be a big hit with the S&S, Sci-Fi, and Horror fans, but challenged to cut a swath through the mainstream audiences. When it finally does arrive on DVD, it is going to be a very big seller (there are a lot of fantasy/horror fans out there) and will almost certainly become a genre classic along the lines of "Brotherhood of the Wolf."
6. IMO, it isn't the quality of this film that is hindering it from getting distribution. I think it is the fact that the makers of Kane took a serious, no-nonsense approach to the story. S&S films are supposed to be silly like "Conan the Destroyer" or "The Scorpion King." If it had a soft and jiggly center of adolescent humor I think the distributors would be much less nervous about its potential on an American circuit.
7. This is just the kind of movie I would like to see.

I have nothing of value to add, to this summary, just that i totally agree with everything said :) (i could have been an internet dude and just wrote QFT!!!!!!111eleven but the forum wouldn't allow me to write such short posts, believe me i tried hihi... ok that was a lie... i love long and dwindling sentences)
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