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#41 Almuric

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:22 PM

Hopefully Canada will get this soon.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


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Posted 31 January 2010 - 07:42 PM

Hopefully Canada will get this soon.


Canada does have it. I'm watching it on TMN, though I think it's a week behind as the second episode airs tonight. Which means I have to be careful reading this thread because of spoilers.
CGI backgrounds are a little fake looking but it still works. It's a situation where the fake ie the over the top blood and the green screen backrounds are done so well it allows you to suspend belief. Kind of like a minds eye rather than reality.

Edit: My mistake the second episode airs tomorrow. Guess I'm stuck with the Simpsons tonight. :(

Edited by Seamvs, 31 January 2010 - 11:28 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 07:53 PM

I don't get TMN, sadly.

But I'm sure it will show up on History eventually.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:23 PM

got ep 2 dvr'd.

will run it after I sink into BSG 4.0 for a few rounds.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

Downloaded the first episode (it doesnt air in Brazil), gonna post my thoughts soon.
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 01:08 AM

Like the majority, I think the CGI blood is over the top. But beyond that it's a guilty pleasure.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 03:02 AM

My wife and I found ourselves discussing different issues and topcs during the second episode, just not paying much attention. Not captivating dialogue and the forced "plots" (seriously financial ruin for the gladiator house is all they got? ) and gladiator "trial by fire" (really? My money was that Spartacus would make it. Shock. ) leaves much to be desired, IMO.

I get the guilty pleasure rationale but the show simply lacks substance. The whole gladiator training is as much fun as it looks. Not.

Still hoping the show has more to offer than how Xena spent her earnings. :)

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:10 AM

OK, I've seen a few bits online, and I must admit it looks pretty interesting. The writers have done some research, even using the story that Spartacus' wife was a prophetess, and mentioning Mithridates (a guy about whom Hollywood has never done an epic, oddly). And according to Wikipedia, the fourth episode is titled "The Thing in the Pit", a Howardian title if there ever was.
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Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:19 AM

and mentioning Mithridates (a guy about whom Hollywood has never done an epic, oddly).

No kidding. There's a guy who gave Rome fits for a while.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:23 AM

But the Romans hailed him as a worthy adversary.

After he was safely dead, of course. :P
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--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:40 AM

But the Romans hailed him as a worthy adversary.

After he was safely dead, of course. :P



they loved that kind of thing. Pree "Dying Gaul." Wasn't that in every garden.
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:24 AM

The campaigns against Mithridates and their aftermath play a prominent role in one of John Maddox Roberts's SPQR mysteries. As a matter of fact, gladiators and gladiator schools are also featured prominently. I find myself thinking of Decius Caecillius Metellus when watching "Spartacus." If the latter is a hit, I would hope some smart TV producer would get on the phone to JMR. There's a series I would pay to see. :)
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:17 AM

The campaigns against Mithridates and their aftermath play a prominent role in one of John Maddox Roberts's SPQR mysteries. As a matter of fact, gladiators and gladiator schools are also featured prominently. I find myself thinking of Decius Caecillius Metellus when watching "Spartacus." If the latter is a hit, I would hope some smart TV producer would get on the phone to JMR. There's a series I would pay to see. :)

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:47 PM

Saw the first episode, not bad at all, but visually its a 300 wannabe and the "Im forced to fight" main character is a little annoying cliche.
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:30 PM

Keep thinking those good thoughts.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:06 PM

Keep thinking those good thoughts.


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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:20 AM

I think JMR was referring to posts no. 52 and 53. :)
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 07:04 PM

I think JMR was referring to posts no. 52 and 53. :)

CP meant #51 and #52.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 10:34 PM

Thanks, Axe, for the correction. I've been poling my more disreputable sword and sandal buddies and the general consensus on "Spartacus" is surprisingly similar: trashy and simplistic, but hugely entertaining. That's with a margin of error of 90 to 95 percentage points. :)
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:35 PM

I caught the two episodes over the weekend.
Unless the writing and story gets better I'll have to list it as a limited guilty pleasure.
While the fight scenes and nudity do have their appeal it is just not enough to warrant my continued interest.
It just seems that the writers are going for a lowest common factor with the story and don't know what they could do with the material.
I'll give it a couple of more episodes. If it does not improve I'll have to let it go.
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