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#81 Almuric

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:40 PM

While most of the cast is good, I'd like to single out Peter Mensah as "Doctore". He's got a Yul Brynner thing going on.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:17 AM

I got the first two episodes at the Starz website and I was rather glad I took the time to watch it. Grant it, some of the slow motion effects didn't work but in a few instances I thought it did. I am glad to see that Starz is taking this gamble, good or bad. I would rather have this show to watch than not to have it. Now, if only only HBO, Showtime or Starz would do a sword & sorcery show that is true to the roots of the genre.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 06:29 AM

I'd love a Rome esque Bran Mak Morn!
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:28 AM

That would be awesome Monk... I think any of those studios could do a very good Kull, Brak Mak Morn or any of REH's stories. I think they out to do a "Robert E. Howard presents"... Could do a single episode of a story or a multi-part series, depending on the story itself. Its a shame with as much creative talent that we have here on the Conan forum that some of us don't collaborate and try to propose media ideas to CPI.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:32 AM

Well, watched the first three episodes. Episode one wasn't all that good, but a friend convinced me to move on to the next one, and the second episode was a huge improvement. Funny how, when they shifted the focus away from constant ridiculous blood-filled battle scenes to actual dialogue and plot, things got more watchable. So far, the toned-down 300-style blood effects have only helped the series, and the "shocking" features are no longer gratuitous. The best feature: the main character isn't perfect or larger-than-life at this point, he makes mistakes and learns from 'em. If they keep the show along these lines, I'll keep on watching.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:49 AM

That would be awesome Monk... I think any of those studios could do a very good Kull, Brak Mak Morn or any of REH's stories. I think they out to do a "Robert E. Howard presents"... Could do a single episode of a story or a multi-part series, depending on the story itself. Its a shame with as much creative talent that we have here on the Conan forum that some of us don't collaborate and try to propose media ideas to CPI.



I'm seriously game. Been toying with either developing a project for Zuda or something else. Clearly, when it comes to the moving image, we can't trust the teams pitching stuff now.
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In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:23 AM

Agreed Monk... Perhaps we can collaborate and get a few others from the creative pool here at the forum to get involved. I know Fox has a contest every year for a TV show pitch.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:03 PM

Watched episode 2 last night! Loved it! I hope it continues!
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:40 PM

I watched the 1st 2 eps, but duz any1 kno where i can watch ep 3, online of course?
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 09:35 AM

Dont compare this to HBO's Rome and diss it. I have seen documentaries on Gladiators in Rome days and they have captured the feel,history of it really well.


I dig the great action that isnt slow-mo in every move any-more,the music,the surprising good acting,the visuals that makes the scenes look very good. Doesnt look CGI fake any-more when you are used to it.

I'm really surprised by this I expected to be only action and crap story. The story is compelling. They capture Capua well.


Some of the lines sound very REH like hehe.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 01:16 PM

The dialog between the characters is getting interesting IMO. I remember how "Deadwood" developed a unique style of spoken dialog that was part Old West redneck, part Shakespeare, part anachronistic profanity. It seems to me over the last couple of shows that "Spartacus" is going the same route with a mix of classical sword and sandal speak with a David Mamet spin and a bit of the Bard stirred with a dash of their pseudo-Roman profanity. Going for a unique style is a hopeful sign that the producers want to do something with the show beyond sword swinging and sex. We'll see.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:29 PM

Well I learned what a merkin is today thanks to this show!! :D
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 03:54 PM

The dialog between the characters is getting interesting IMO. I remember how "Deadwood" developed a unique style of spoken dialog that was part Old West redneck, part Shakespeare, part anachronistic profanity. It seems to me over the last couple of shows that "Spartacus" is going the same route with a mix of classical sword and sandal speak with a David Mamet spin and a bit of the Bard stirred with a dash of their pseudo-Roman profanity. Going for a unique style is a hopeful sign that the producers want to do something with the show beyond sword swinging and sex. We'll see.


Pseudo-Roman swearing is no problem for me, i just imagine them swearing in their real language of that time. Not like they spoke english on those days. They are human,violent men it would be fake if they didnt swear.

Yeah i agree the dialog is getting interesting,not as predictable as first.

Also nice surprise how humbled Spartacus was in his fight in ep 3. I thought they would make it easy,predictable for him.

Crixus i read in this topic was historically important which i didnt know so i assumed he would lose in Primus.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 04:24 AM

it needs more cow bells.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 04:32 AM

Needs more sex and violence.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 06:01 AM

Watched Episode 4: "The Thing in the Pit." To my mind, the most visceral and powerful episode yet. It grabbed you from the beginning and never let go. The writers definitely seem to be getting a grip on the direction and style of the series. Spartacus's progression toward rebel leader will be slow and sure and bloody. I am beginning to respect the sheer audacity of this show. The producers and the writers seem determined upon a path without any artistic boundaries. This show kicks down the doors to levels of violence and adult situations against which previous shows have only knocked.

I am beginning to really enjoy "Spartacus's" unique style of dialog. Inaccurate and stilted it may be, but it gives the lines a colorful and engaging flow. I am reminded of how after reading a couple of Patrick O'Brien novels I found myself speaking like a Napoleonic Era sailor. I can hear myself speaking Spartacusinee before too long. Instead of saying "KIl the umpire!" I will now say, "It is of an ending to this foul and sightless (insert four letter word of choice) that I would speak!"

Powerful story tonight as Spartacus literally descends into the pits of hell and the most brutal fights I have ever seen in a TV show (or most feature films for that matter). Andy Whitfield is gaining more and more statue and gravitas with each episode. John Hannah continues to impress as the old pro teaching the rookie actors how it's done. Got to hand it to the writers, I did not foresee tonight's ending. I kept thinking, "How the heck does Spartacus get out of this?" Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but a real treat for fans of overheated sword and sandal flicks.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 10:54 PM

I shall look forward to that episode on Monday.:)
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 11:46 PM

Powerful story tonight as Spartacus literally descends into the pits of hell and the most brutal fights I have ever seen in a TV show (or most feature films for that matter). Andy Whitfield is gaining more and more statue and gravitas with each episode. John Hannah continues to impress as the old pro teaching the rookie actors how it's done. Got to hand it to the writers, I did not foresee tonight's ending. I kept thinking, "How the heck does Spartacus get out of this?" Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but a real treat for fans of overheated sword and sandal flicks.


I whole heartidly agree. Last night's episode had some of the most extreme hardcore violence I've ever seen in a film of this sort, like what I would imagine a REH story would could look like if literally adapted for the screen. I noticed they took somewhat of a break from the usual slo-mo and CGI arterial sprays for a darker and more realistic look. Every episode brings something new and refreshing, and digs deeper into the development of the characters as well. I think this show is a lot more than a one-note 300 rip-off, as the premiere episode seemed to suggest.
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 04:40 AM

4th episode was my favorite so far - it felt like a Gary Kwapisz issue of SSOC brought to life.

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 11:54 AM

I also enjoyed this ep most so far. Not only because it was most brutal action scenes so far. Spartacus descent to the pits was so emotionally strong,you felt for the poor guy guy losing his mind,body to fights.


Whitefield and Jonh Hannah are impressive and so is the black Gladiator trainer. Dont know the actor's name.

This show should be a hit among sword fights fans and sandal flicks. Thats most adult male that like adventure,action.


I also like the title of the eps.

"The Thing in the Pit." sound like a S&S story from the fantasy pulp days ;)

Edited by Libaax, 14 February 2010 - 11:56 AM.