Spartacus - Starz Series
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 01:31 AM
The action slowed in the second episode but still as overstated as any. As CP said guilty pleasure.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 01:48 AM
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 03:00 PM
Watched Spartacus premier last night.
I was both rocked and annoyed by it. There's just too much 300, Gladiator and Rome in there for it ti feel any way original.
I love my blood and sex but there's was waaay too much of both for it to be taken seriously.
It's like they said they saw what folks liked and slapped it together without any thought.
I felt this way after one episode so hopefully it will calm down after a few episodes.
It's presented very well so I'd be stupid to judge it after one episode.
I was both rocked and annoyed by it. There's just too much 300, Gladiator and Rome in there for it ti feel any way original.
I love my blood and sex but there's was waaay too much of both for it to be taken seriously.
It's like they said they saw what folks liked and slapped it together without any thought.
I felt this way after one episode so hopefully it will calm down after a few episodes.
It's presented very well so I'd be stupid to judge it after one episode.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:40 AM
Couldn't agree more with Mr. Trout. It was like listening to myself think. For those of you who haven't seen it, here is a link to the YouTube trailer.
Spartacus - Blood and Sand
Spartacus - Blood and Sand
A wild moon rode in the wild white clouds,
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 07:19 AM
I'm not really feeling the Internal Helmet Cam.
Kind of whack.
Kind of whack.
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In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:12 PM
Well, at least this show covers new ground.
I mean when have we ever seen a little person running around with a dildo on his head in a Roman spa!
He's either very lucky or very unfortunate to have such gig!
I mean when have we ever seen a little person running around with a dildo on his head in a Roman spa!
He's either very lucky or very unfortunate to have such gig!
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:30 PM
Well, at least this show covers new ground.
I mean when have we ever seen a little person running around with a dildo on his head in a Roman spa!
He's either very lucky or very unfortunate to have such gig!
Yeah, he was a real dick head wasn't he. If that bothered you don't ever watch Caligula.
Mitra! The ways of the Aesir were more to my liking.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:31 PM
I'm not really feeling the Internal Helmet Cam.
Kind of whack.
I agree. The whole thing (and the facial expressions from inside the helmet) felt disjointed to me, like it wasn't in synch with the action outside. Still, I'd have to rate this as the best episode so far. We finally got some real character development. I think this show's going to get better and better. I also predict that Spartacus and Crixus will eventually become the best of friends.
Edited by amsterdamaged, 06 February 2010 - 03:32 PM.
Money and muscle, that's what I want; to be able to do any damned thing I want and get away with it. Money won't do that altogether, because if a man is a weakling, all the money in the world won't enable him to soak an enemy himself; on the other hand, unless he has money he may not be able to get away with it.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 10:11 PM
I like that chick that Crixus is kicking it to.
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"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
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In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 10:12 PM
Well, at least this show covers new ground.
I mean when have we ever seen a little person running around with a dildo on his head in a Roman spa!
He's either very lucky or very unfortunate to have such gig!
I have to imagine that's been covered, Caligula probably.
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 10:40 PM
I enjoyed the episode and still have high enthusiasm for it, but I do wish they'd lighten up on the sexual content. I think we get the point that Roman life was really decadent (at least for the upper class). Of course, a lot of fans would not agree with me. Not to use a play on words, but they fleshed out the character of Crixus a little more this episode and gave him a love interest. Manu Bennett as Crixus reminds me a lot of the young William Smith. He can work himself into that burning-eyed psycho look that was Smith's principal means of support for so many years. I like the way the writers are not imbuing Spartacus with superhuman invincibility. Not yet, anyway. I still think John Hannah as Batiatus is the most interesting character in the show.
I remember my daughters absolutely adored Lucy Lawless as Xena when they were little girls. She was their role model. It's gonna be quite a culture shock if they stumble across this show. The next episode is titled "The Thing in the Pit." I believe someone else commented on how that's a pretty good REH title.
I remember my daughters absolutely adored Lucy Lawless as Xena when they were little girls. She was their role model. It's gonna be quite a culture shock if they stumble across this show. The next episode is titled "The Thing in the Pit." I believe someone else commented on how that's a pretty good REH title.
A wild moon rode in the wild white clouds,
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 02:24 AM
Not to mention the QOTBC reference in the second episode. Makes me wonder...The next episode is titled "The Thing in the Pit." I believe someone else commented on how that's a pretty good REH title.
Mitra! The ways of the Aesir were more to my liking.
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 08:44 AM
The trailer alone was enough to put me off....skipped, I only have so much time in life.
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Posted 07 February 2010 - 11:50 PM
I liked the 3rd episode.
That 'Spartacus' trying to outplay 'Crixus' and then getting walked over, yes, that's what happens to young fighters who won't listen to their instructor.
The sword techniques look quite okay, I think.
BTW, my daughter was a great Xena fan, too. And she really likes 'Spartacus'!
That 'Spartacus' trying to outplay 'Crixus' and then getting walked over, yes, that's what happens to young fighters who won't listen to their instructor.
The sword techniques look quite okay, I think.
BTW, my daughter was a great Xena fan, too. And she really likes 'Spartacus'!
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:16 AM
I enjoyed the episode and still have high enthusiasm for it, but I do wish they'd lighten up on the sexual content. I think we get the point that Roman life was really decadent (at least for the upper class). Of course, a lot of fans would not agree with me. Not to use a play on words, but they fleshed out the character of Crixus a little more this episode and gave him a love interest. Manu Bennett as Crixus reminds me a lot of the young William Smith. He can work himself into that burning-eyed psycho look that was Smith's principal means of support for so many years. I like the way the writers are not imbuing Spartacus with superhuman invincibility. Not yet, anyway. I still think John Hannah as Batiatus is the most interesting character in the show.
I remember my daughters absolutely adored Lucy Lawless as Xena when they were little girls. She was their role model. It's gonna be quite a culture shock if they stumble across this show. The next episode is titled "The Thing in the Pit." I believe someone else commented on how that's a pretty good REH title.
nothing like a couple of conjugal primers on hand, ahem...
i would probably really enjoy these shows, it's just the way overblown cgi...the internal helmet cams made me laugh the second time it was on, and I didn't skip past it. So I did sit and watch it though. Sort of in a Mystery Science Theatre sort of way though. When one part of the cgi is slo mo, and then the character is watching the slo mo but he is moving in real time, it really breaks down for me, especially with these giant ridiculous splashes of blood.
there is art, and then there is silly. this could be much better if they would just tone that down a little.
i never liked xena very much, thought it was kinda dumb, but I loved her role in BSG!
Thing in the Pit looks good. Even if it takes them to season two to figure out to lay off the effects, I'll probably stick with it. A guilt pleasure, someone said, and I guess that sums it up for me as well. If not for DVR, I doubt I would go out of my way to watch it. If it happens to be on, it might keep me.
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"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:59 PM
The Starz website had the first two episodes.
I love it!
More TV shows like this, please.
I love it!
More TV shows like this, please.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:08 PM
I'm gonna watch the second episode tonight.
Lets hope they have calmed down a bit a realised that by having lots boobs and blood you make it only for adults. Adults, (who are generally expected to have higher tastes than a teen boy) in some cases they need a bit more than that to spend e a hour of their time.
I'm delighted they made a show like this but by making it so blatant, you may run the risk of people once again drawing obvious conclusions about the genre of sword & sandle.
Lets hope they have calmed down a bit a realised that by having lots boobs and blood you make it only for adults. Adults, (who are generally expected to have higher tastes than a teen boy) in some cases they need a bit more than that to spend e a hour of their time.
I'm delighted they made a show like this but by making it so blatant, you may run the risk of people once again drawing obvious conclusions about the genre of sword & sandle.
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Wow is Spartacus's wife hot!
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:34 AM
Interesting: From Wikipedia:
Origins
Thracian tribes, including the Maedi.
The ancient sources agree on calling Spartacus a Thracian. Plutarch describes him as "a Thracian of Nomadic stock" and "more Hellenic than Thracian" when referring to his character.[1] Appian says he was "a Thracian by birth, who had once served as a soldier with the Romans, but had since been a prisoner and sold for a Gladiator".[2] Florus (2.8.8) described him as one "who from Thracian mercenary, had become a Roman soldier, of a soldier a deserter and robber, and afterwards, from consideration of his strength, a gladiator".[3] Some authors refer to the Thracian tribe of the Maedi,[4] which in historic times occupied the area on the southwestern fringes of Thrace (present-day north-eastern Greece, south-western Bulgaria).[5] Plutarch also writes that Spartacus's wife, a prophetess of the same tribe, was enslaved with him.
Though the term "Thracian" is almost universally taken as Spartacus's ethnic origin, some authors have interpreted the word as Thraex (plural Thraces or Threses), a type of gladiator and thus referring to the style of gladiatorial combat in which he was trained.[6]
The name Spartacus is otherwise attested in the Black Sea region: kings of the Thracian dynasty of the Cimmerian Bosporus[7] and Pontus[8] are known to have borne it, and a Thracian "Spardacus"[9] or "Sparadokos",[10] father of Seuthes I of the Odrysae, is also known.
Origins
Thracian tribes, including the Maedi.
The ancient sources agree on calling Spartacus a Thracian. Plutarch describes him as "a Thracian of Nomadic stock" and "more Hellenic than Thracian" when referring to his character.[1] Appian says he was "a Thracian by birth, who had once served as a soldier with the Romans, but had since been a prisoner and sold for a Gladiator".[2] Florus (2.8.8) described him as one "who from Thracian mercenary, had become a Roman soldier, of a soldier a deserter and robber, and afterwards, from consideration of his strength, a gladiator".[3] Some authors refer to the Thracian tribe of the Maedi,[4] which in historic times occupied the area on the southwestern fringes of Thrace (present-day north-eastern Greece, south-western Bulgaria).[5] Plutarch also writes that Spartacus's wife, a prophetess of the same tribe, was enslaved with him.
Though the term "Thracian" is almost universally taken as Spartacus's ethnic origin, some authors have interpreted the word as Thraex (plural Thraces or Threses), a type of gladiator and thus referring to the style of gladiatorial combat in which he was trained.[6]
The name Spartacus is otherwise attested in the Black Sea region: kings of the Thracian dynasty of the Cimmerian Bosporus[7] and Pontus[8] are known to have borne it, and a Thracian "Spardacus"[9] or "Sparadokos",[10] father of Seuthes I of the Odrysae, is also known.
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
