well obviously, his being wounded severely is now going to show him exactly what he is fighting for- which is basically nothing...
Spartacus - Starz Series
Started by Strom, Dec 17 2009 10:51 PM
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:35 PM
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:46 AM
I like the contrast in the gladiator's lives in and out of the arena. Inside, they're somebody. They have a chance to fight or die. Outside, they're just slaves, used by everyone.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:06 AM
Shadow Games! I've not been that excited watching a fictional fight since Rocky 4, and that is saying something. Fools to those who are looking for another Rome series. This is some totally different; it only shares the setting so get over it. Sure I liked the dialogue driven produced and sometimes written by John Milius`Rome but not the same way I like Spartacus.
Side note; to speak to the dialogue in Spartacus, I believe their speech is as if it was translated from Latin to English. Save for the cursing of course. There is a lot more than boobs and blood going on here.
A lot more!
Side note; to speak to the dialogue in Spartacus, I believe their speech is as if it was translated from Latin to English. Save for the cursing of course. There is a lot more than boobs and blood going on here.
A lot more!
Edited by Seamvs, 24 February 2010 - 04:20 AM.
Mitra! The ways of the Aesir were more to my liking.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:08 AM
well crix is gonna learn that inside sucks too- he kinda did just learn.
bet that is what will drive him to rebel.
bet that is what will drive him to rebel.
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:11 AM
I now have a new favorite line:
"Slaves? They send common f------g slaves to kill Batiatus? Common . . . f------g . . . slaves? F--k!"
Please don't kill him off too soon.
"Slaves? They send common f------g slaves to kill Batiatus? Common . . . f------g . . . slaves? F--k!"
Please don't kill him off too soon.
Edited by Almuric, 23 February 2010 - 04:18 AM.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:31 AM
I'm thinking "by Jupiter's c#@%" might become my favourite saying whilst inebriated.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:49 AM
It appears from those last two quotes, gentlemen, that "Spartacus" is already contributing to the culture. 
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the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
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the waves their white crests showed
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 07:20 AM
I think it's great Crix is practically nailing three hot chicks.
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 08:14 AM
After a slow start this series has really ramped up. Tonight's episode (televised on Mondays in Canada) was the best so far, even with Theokoles looking like a Wraith. This show's definitely a guilty pleasure.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 08:41 AM
I think it's great Crix is practically nailing three hot chicks.
He is a Gaul.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:33 AM
I like the contrast in the gladiator's lives in and out of the arena. Inside, they're somebody. They have a chance to fight or die. Outside, they're just slaves, used by everyone.
Thats what i like about the show most so far. They show well the weird life of a Gladiator. When he trains,fights he is loved,famous everything outside his element he is just a slave.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:09 AM
Finally saw my first episode and gee, fellas, I'm having a difficult time placing where I've seen this style before...
I know they stole it from somewhere, but where? If you gave me 300 guesses, I doubt I'd place it.
I know they stole it from somewhere, but where? If you gave me 300 guesses, I doubt I'd place it.
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Is but a dream within a dream. - Edgar Allen Poe
It's the olden lure, it's the golden lure, it's the lure of the timeless things. - Robert Service
For the myth is the foundation of life; it is the timeless schema, the pious formula into which life flows when it reproduces its traits out of the unconscious. - Thomas Mann
Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. - Norman Maclean
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:28 AM
give it time. it's like taco bell. ordinarily you might not eat it, but late night...after a few...
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:29 AM
I think it's great Crix is practically nailing three hot chicks.
He is a Gaul.
LMAO, I'm in love with Lucy Lawless's coitus warmer upperer.
"I live, I BURN WITH LIFE, I love, I slay, and am content."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
"Here's to brother Painbrush, we drink to his Shade..."
"All Art Is Martial"- RZA
"Our basic purist premise:
ROBERT E. HOWARD, ENTIRELY ALONE, WITHOUT ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OTHER PERSON, CREATED THE CHARACTER CONAN OF CIMMERIA. NO OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS SHOULD BE INTRUDING THEIR WORK INTO THE VOLUMES OF HOWARD'S CONAN STORIES.
In essence, we believe that the work of any creative artist -- writer, painter, illustrator, musician, what-have-you -- is a unique expression of an artistic point of view. It should not be appropriated or altered by others without the artist's consent. No other writer has Robert E. Howard's unique point of view, and no other writer knows what Howard would have done with his character had he lived. Upon his death, his canon, the expression of his artistic vision, became fixed. Tampering with it now is desecration."
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:51 PM
Episode 5 seals the deal for me. I am now loving this series.
I am wondering are they gonna do a Conan kind thing with it, in that this series is called Blood and Sand and it deals with his time as a gladiator?
Will the second series deal with him somewhere else.
I don't know the original story.
I am wondering are they gonna do a Conan kind thing with it, in that this series is called Blood and Sand and it deals with his time as a gladiator?
Will the second series deal with him somewhere else.
I don't know the original story.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:33 PM
Episode 5 seals the deal for me. I am now loving this series.
I am wondering are they gonna do a Conan kind thing with it, in that this series is called Blood and Sand and it deals with his time as a gladiator?
Will the second series deal with him somewhere else.
I don't know the original story.
Frankly there have been several films,tv about his time as a leader of a rebellion. Nothing about the times of him as a slave,gladiator.
Maybe they flee,the rebellion starts in the last ep of the show.
I love this show because i enjoy the characters,the harsh,violent life of the gladiator. Not because there is great action,some sex scenes....
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:55 PM
I think they'll switch gears at some point and start the rebellion. I can't imagine the gladiator story going on indefinately.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
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0.............9o0
Practically the only source we have for Spartacus is Plutarch. He says that Spartacus, a probable Thracian deserter from the Roman auxilia (only Roman citizens could serve as legionaries) was sent to the gladiator school of Batiatus at Capua and fomented a rebellion there. He does not say whether or not Spartacus actually ever fought in the arena, only that he was at the training school. He also says that the gladiators there were made to fight "not because of anything they had done, but only because of the cruelty and oppression of their master." In Plutarch's day (almost two centuries later) even a slave could not be sent to the arena without being first condemned by a court. Considering the circumstances, this place was a rebellion waiting to happen right from the get-go. The Spartacus rebellion resutled in some serious reforms of the games and of the institution of slavery itself, not for humanitarian reasons but for purely practical ones.
Practically the only source we have for Spartacus is Plutarch. He says that Spartacus, a probable Thracian deserter from the Roman auxilia (only Roman citizens could serve as legionaries) was sent to the gladiator school of Batiatus at Capua and fomented a rebellion there. He does not say whether or not Spartacus actually ever fought in the arena, only that he was at the training school. He also says that the gladiators there were made to fight "not because of anything they had done, but only because of the cruelty and oppression of their master." In Plutarch's day (almost two centuries later) even a slave could not be sent to the arena without being first condemned by a court. Considering the circumstances, this place was a rebellion waiting to happen right from the get-go. The Spartacus rebellion resutled in some serious reforms of the games and of the institution of slavery itself, not for humanitarian reasons but for purely practical ones.
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:26 AM
I now have a new favorite line:
"Slaves? They send common f------g slaves to kill Batiatus? Common . . . f------g . . . slaves? F--k!"
Please don't kill him off too soon.
Sadly, Batatius and Lucretia are listed in IMDb for 6 of the shows 12 first season episodes. Whereas Spartacus, Crixus and Doctore are down for all 12. I would sure hate to see either John Hannah or Lucy Lawless exit the show, as they are two of its strongest and most interesting characters.
A wild moon rode in the wild white clouds,
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
the waves their white crests showed
When Solomon Kane went forth again,
and no man knew his road.
"Solomon Kane's Homecoming"
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 04:34 AM
I think it would be interesting if Spartacus looses focus on his wife and starts finding a kinda of self respect through his gladiator role. When he finds himself starting to enjoy the vanity and bloodshed too much he gets snapped back into focus on his wife only to find some twist of fate we didn't expect.
Mitra! The ways of the Aesir were more to my liking.
