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#141 daknight

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Posted 09 April 2007 - 02:46 AM

The Keep was an awesome movie. REH would have liked it, if not the original book (s) by F Paul Wilson. The book was actually part of trilogy.
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Posted 09 April 2007 - 11:29 AM

The Keep was an awesome movie. REH would have liked it, if not the original book (s) by F Paul Wilson. The book was actually part of trilogy.


didn't know that, Ive read a couple of F Paul Wilsons books and really liked his style.. need to look some more of his stuff ut,its been a while since I read some decent horror

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 03:59 AM

Also try Scott Nicholson. He is a pretty reliable horror writer. I've been following his work from the beginning, and usually get them whether they've been reviewed or not. Also, Robert J. Randisi writes some good serial-killer detective-type horror.
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Posted 14 April 2007 - 02:11 AM

didn't know that, Ive read a couple of F Paul Wilsons books and really liked his style.. need to look some more of his stuff ut,its been a while since I read some decent horror

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Hey Budgie! Wilson is an aknowledged Lovecraft fan (like REH). He's said in interviews that he intended that The Keep be "Lovecraftian". He has an excellent story called "The Barrens" in the Lovecraft's Legacy anthology. You should also check out Campbell's The Darkest Part of the Woods.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:13 AM

As much as I wanted to like 'Darkest Part of the Woods,' I just could NOT get into it. I must've given it a hundred pages. A writer should hook you by 50, 100 at the latest.
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 09:20 AM

As much as I wanted to like 'Darkest Part of the Woods,' I just could NOT get into it. I must've given it a hundred pages. A writer should hook you by 50, 100 at the latest.


Hey Timeless! Art is a subjective thing. Some think that Man-Eaters of Zamboula is a masterpiece and Blood of Belshazzar is crap. I beg to differ. You've read Campbell's "Ryre" tales, I assume?

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 06:37 PM

No, I haven't. But I do like those old CtB Thomas/Buscema tales. Just got my collection back in my hands after a couple of decades and am having a ball re-reading them. Most of them, anyway.
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For the myth is the foundation of life; it is the timeless schema, the pious formula into which life flows when it reproduces its traits out of the unconscious. - Thomas Mann

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. - Norman Maclean

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 07:03 PM

No, I haven't. But I do like those old CtB Thomas/Buscema tales. Just got my collection back in my hands after a couple of decades and am having a ball re-reading them. Most of them, anyway.


Yeah, I thought Roy did a fine job, considering the CCA restrictions he was under. I met him at Howard Days last year. A great guy. The four "Ryre" stories by Campbell are very Howardian: fast-paced S&S with an emphasis on horror.

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 08:34 PM

I'll have to check them out, if you recommend them.

This Fall (way too busy now) I'm going to hit ebay and try to complete my Savage Sword #1-60 collection (the only ones that really matter, when RT worked on them.) I'm going to sell my others and use whatever I make to replace the gaps in 1-60 (about twenty issues.) Looking forward to reading them. I don't have the adaptations of 'Slithering Shadow' or 'Devil in Iron' or 'Shadows in Zamboula,' some of my favorites.

Looking at all the great Buscema/DeZuniga/Chan T and A in those old issues, it's difficult to understand why I liked them as a teenage boy... ;)
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It's the olden lure, it's the golden lure, it's the lure of the timeless things. - Robert Service

For the myth is the foundation of life; it is the timeless schema, the pious formula into which life flows when it reproduces its traits out of the unconscious. - Thomas Mann

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. - Norman Maclean

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 08:38 PM

By the way, Blood of Belshazzar is a very good story. It definitely held up to what my memory registered.
All that we see or seem
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It's the olden lure, it's the golden lure, it's the lure of the timeless things. - Robert Service

For the myth is the foundation of life; it is the timeless schema, the pious formula into which life flows when it reproduces its traits out of the unconscious. - Thomas Mann

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. - Norman Maclean

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 02:43 AM

3) PG-13. Anything that should even be remotely attached to Robert E. Howard's name shouldn't be anything less than R. His creative palate was blood, sex, and gore, not some Xena episode.


Actually, Xena did have blood, sex and gore. It was Hercules that was the friendly no killing hero show. ;)

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:45 PM

I was watching this on TV over the weekend,.and,while I had to groan all during the film,I noticed as to how closely the plot followed "Hour of the Dragon."I mean;

1.)The barbarian usurper who was ousted from his throne and returned following a quest.
2.)The resurrected sorceress
3.)The cabal of nobles and seers who brought the undead back to life.
4.)The fence who attmepted to doublecross an old client.

I haven't seenand/or noticed any other comments to this effect.So,at the risk of appearing to be obtuse,would any else care to comment?

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:16 PM

Hey Hans! It is kinda funny. In Milius' "CtB", the titular character's personality/history seems more closely based on that of Kull of Atlantis, while in the "Kull" movie, the general plotline seems to have been based on that of a "Conan" yarn. Go figure. :)

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 04:53 AM

I recall hearing that "Kull the Conquerer" was supposed to be a Conan movie starring Arnie, an adaptation of HoTD, also known as "Conan the Conquerer". This would explain the elements from HoTD, like the sorceress and mentions of Acheron, which of course existed long after Kull's time. Too bad nobody involved realized this. :rolleyes:
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:42 PM

I recall hearing that "Kull the Conquerer" was supposed to be a Conan movie starring Arnie, an adaptation of HoTD, also known as "Conan the Conquerer". This would explain the elements from HoTD, like the sorceress and mentions of Acheron, which of course existed long after Kull's time. Too bad nobody involved realized this. :rolleyes:


Actually, if you read The Road to Kull...
You can see that the writer did knowing use elements from HotD. He just wove them into a story that got butchered by the producers and the director.
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Posted 29 June 2007 - 03:17 AM

& L. SPrague DeCamp's name was attached as 'technical advisor' or something so we can't let him go unpunished either :( It would have been interesting to see how Kull would have turned out with Pogue & Hooks doing it instead of the travesty it did become . The one thing to be thankful for is that it didn't end up being the Conan movie it was originally suposed to be & then have went through the same changes it actually did after it became a Kull movie - one more bad Conan movie would just about seal that sarcophagus for all time with any studios !!!

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 11:38 PM

I liked the movie. I thought Kevin Sorbo did a great job as Kull but I also thought it was a bad script. I wonder what the Kull movie would have been like if John Mileus or even Ridley Scott had been in charge of the project. What do you all think??? :rolleyes:

Perhaps we can get a petition or something to get a new movie done with a better director. :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 01:49 AM

I thought Kevin Sorbo Did well as Kull in the movie. My thought is, Good actor,Bad director and bad script. I think John Mileus or even Ridley Scott as director would have made that movie great. What does anyone else think? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Posted 11 November 2007 - 08:34 AM

I thought Kevin Sorbo Did well as Kull in the movie. My thought is, Good actor,Bad director and bad script. I think John Mileus or even Ridley Scott as director would have made that movie great. What does anyone else think? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:





I don't think John Milius would have made that good of a Kull director. CTB was a classic barbarian movie but I agree with most here that it wasn't a Conan movie. Strange thing about CTB was I really enjoyed it and didn't know why until I watched the behind the scenes of Fire& Ice. Painting with Fire where Milius admitted to framing the shots like a Frazetta painting.

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