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#1 Almuric

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:00 PM

My local library got some peplum DVDs from Retromedia, including several of the Hercules series, and assorted other movies from the early '60s sword & sandal craze, so I'm going to watch and review them. If anyone else wants to add their reviews, feel free.

Giants of Rome (1964), starring Richard Harrison. Caesar is battling the Gauls, and learns of a new Druid weapon that might halt his advance into the north. So he dispatches a small band of Roman commandos to destroy it. So, it's The Guns of Navarone with Romans. For some strange reason, the Gauls are dressed like Mongols. :blink: These Mongauls act nothing like historical Gauls, apart from their hatred of the Romans. Also, the Druids seem to function more as military leaders than priests. Such matters aside, the movie is fun and never gets a chance to be dull. The fight scenes are energetic and varied. There are some moments of surprising quality, especially one that happens at the halfway mark.

Too bad the print itself is not that great. It's grimy in places and the picture seems cropped. The sound quality is poor too, with a faint hissing audible on the soundtrack.

Next up, Hercules and the Princess of Troy.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:26 AM

Hercules and the Princess of Troy (1965), starring Gordon Scott. TVs Tarzan stars in what was intended to be a pilot for a peplum TV series. The Trojans have been cursed to sacrifice virgins to a sea monster, and Hercules must defeat it.

Joining Herc are, uh, Diogenes and, um, Ulysses? Yeah, I guess the 1990s Xena and Hercules shows weren't the first to assume that everything in the ancient world happened at the exact same time. Also, the Trojans worship Minerva and Venus, Roman deities, and that can't be right. Also, Herc and company are sailing to Thebes (the Greek one) and I'm pretty sure that city is landlocked. :unsure: And Herc's ship has a big "H" on the sail (shades of the Hercules cartoon!)

It's not that great and it's easy to see why it didn't make it to series, but it's short, and the full-size mechanical monster at the end makes it all worth while.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:44 AM

Remember that the Romans claimed to be descendents of the Trojans.

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Hercules and the Princess of Troy (1965), starring Gordon Scott. TVs Tarzan stars in what was intended to be a pilot for a peplum TV series. The Trojans have been cursed to sacrifice virgins to a sea monster, and Hercules must defeat it.

Joining Herc are, uh, Diogenes and, um, Ulysses? Yeah, I guess the 1990s Xena and Hercules shows weren't the first to assume that everything in the ancient world happened at the exact same time. Also, the Trojans worship Minerva and Venus, Roman deities, and that can't be right. Also, Herc and company are sailing to Thebes (the Greek one) and I'm pretty sure that city is landlocked. :unsure: And Herc's ship has a big "H" on the sail (shades of the Hercules cartoon!)

It's not that great and it's easy to see why it didn't make it to series, but it's short, and the full-size mechanical monster at the end makes it all worth while.


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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:45 AM

You are a braver, more patient man than I. :)

I picked up the cheapo 'Warriors' set awhile back. 50 peplum movies slapped together in a DVD set because they were public domain.

They are simply unwatchable, to me. I am not *that* finicky about my entertainment (really) but hi def video is definitely spoiling me.

My displeasure had nothing to do with the movies themselves, but the poor, poor quality of the images. Scratched, washed out, blurred, cropped, and dumped directly from poorly produced VHS editions back in the day.

I wanted to get through the collection, but I just couldn't stand the poor quality (yeah, I knew that going in, but I was surprised just how bad they really were.)

So, I'll live vicariously through your reviews - thanks! ;)
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 04:06 AM

PaulMc: Yeah, I have the feeling the genre would get more respect if we had better prints of these films. Despite their reputation, they weren't all cheap, and a few have great visuals underneath the grain and grit.

docpod: I do know the Romans claimed descent from Troy, but I seriously wonder if the writer did. :lol:

My next DVD just arrived at the library, so I'll have some more in the next few days.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:24 AM

I was quite surprised that Mario Bava, the Italian horror maestro, also contributed his share of Peplum:

Hercules Unchained - the second Steve Reeves Hercules film
Hercules in the Centre of the Earth - A Reg Park Hercules film featuring Christopher Lee(!)
The Giant of Marathon - Steve Reeves as Pheidippides in a version of the Battle of Marathon
Hercules in the Haunted World -
Erik the Conqueror - another film based on The Viking by Edison Marshall, like its famous US counterpart The Vikings

I must check these out.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 03:15 PM

I was quite surprised that Mario Bava, the Italian horror maestro, also contributed his share of Peplum:

Hercules in the Centre of the Earth - A Reg Park Hercules film featuring Christopher Lee(!)
Hercules in the Haunted World -
Erik the Conqueror - another film based on The Viking by Edison Marshall, like its famous US counterpart The Vikings


Centre of the Earth and Haunted World are the same movie. I think it's awesome. Very moody and horrific compared to a lot of peplum I've seen (though that's not much).

Erik the Conqueror is pretty cool, although some aspects of it struck me as kind of wonky (did vikings really have vestal virgins? I thought that was more of a Greco-Roman thing but I don't know...). As a low budget alternative to The Vikings, it's fun.

Bava's Knives of the Avenger is also a pretty good "viking spaghetti western".

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Posted 10 April 2011 - 02:54 AM

Hercules (1958, starring Steve Reeves.) The one that started it all. Hercules joins the quest for the Golden Fleece. Reeves is introduced in a pose that would be repeated many times throughout this genre: lifting something impossibly heavy over one's head. In this case, a tree. Also, we once again have slightly anachronistic mythology, with Herc's dad being named as Jupiter instead of Zeus. Likely because this was made by Italians.

It's good, but not great. The Amazon segment is fairly dull and predictable, you've seen this all before (and since). But once we get to the land where the Fleece is located, things pick up with a horde of ape-men and a dragon which is pretty much a T-rex (and it sounds vaguely like Godzilla, too). Too bad the T-rex is a guy in a costume, embiggened by FX (alas, no Italian Harryhausen was available for these movies). And the final fight, with Hercules wielding his broken chains as weapons, makes up for everything.

The cinematography is quite beautiful, and for once, we have a beautiful widescreen print. Why can't more of these movies get this treatment?

Edited by Almuric, 06 November 2011 - 02:54 AM.

"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 12:55 AM

So, long time, no post. Barbaric heroes! A lost city of subterranean mutants! Alas, it's no Worms of the Earth, as we shall see.

Mole Men Vs. The Son of Hercules (1961). First off, this seems to be a print used in TV showings, with the "Sons of Hercules" theme song playing. This was added for TV syndication back in the '60s, where some of these films had their first American exposure. Our hero, Machiste (Mark Forest), who was not actually a son of Hercules, is pulling a whale out of the ocean. This is the high point of the movie, folks, it's all downhill from here.

A nearby village has been destroyed by strange albino attackers. We get treated to an awkward scene of Bangor, a guy of African descent (Paul Wynter) being tormented by some pale guys in white robes <_<, followed by said African guy throwing himself at the feet of his rescuer and swearing to be a loyal slave :blink:. Machiste is a very enlightened guy, though, and accepts the help of Bangor in fighting the Mole Men. Machiste's big plan is to be captured by the Mole Men. Uh-huh.

So, the Mole Men have all their slaves turning a giant wheel. A wheel of pain, one might say. This powers an improbable machine that seems to make jewels and gold with nothing more sophisticated than a big press. Yeah. These Mole Men are a strange bunch. Even a single ray of sunlight can kill them, with melodramatic contortions and time-lapse fading into skeletons. We are informed of this fatal weakness numerous times. So it's absolutely hilarious to see them running around in broad daylight --- with only a mild filter to vainly convince us it's the middle of the night --- with no ill effects. I'm serious. At one point, a Mole Man says the sun will be up soon, while you can plainly see they are standing around in sunlight. I swear, there's never been such a vast gulf between what the characters are saying and what the audience is seeing. There's not a single outdoor shot in this movie that looks even remotely like nighttime. Not even close. And the Mole Men's underground city is very well-lit, too.

Machiste wrestles a gorilla, who is played by one of the worst gorilla suit's I've ever seen. Please don't ask how many I've seen. You can see the stuntman's skin through the obvious eyeholes at several points. And his strength is inconsistent. Pulling a whale from the ocean = easy. Fighting off some skinny guys with bad spears = hard.

At the end, Machiste frees everyone, then runs off to wreck the wheel. Meanwhile, a whole bunch of the former slaves are slaughtered by the Mole Men. Smooth move, Machiste <_<. With some help, Machiste destroys the wheel. Oh, and there's a "plot twist" which manages to be more painfully moronic than anything we've seen previously.

Oh, God, that was awful. A few bright spots, though. The music is OK (not sure if it was composed for this movie, or stolen, though). The sets are fairly big, the number of extras impressive. Mark Forest is a decent Machiste, but he's given very little to do apart from some feats of strength. The first scene with the whale is decent, the intro of the wheel is good, the scene where Machiste holds up stone slabs to keep himself and Bangor from being crushed is good . . . and that's about it.

There's good peplum out there. This is not it.

Edited by Almuric, 08 November 2011 - 04:54 AM.

"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:40 AM

So, I got back in the saddle . . . and was immediately thrown from the horse.

Hercules Vs. The Moon Men (1964). Sigh. It's better than the Mole Men, but not by much. This is a Machiste movie turned into a Hercules movie by the power of bad dubbing. The kingdom of Samar is paying tribute to space aliens. You might think this would lead to a cool hybrid of peplum and science-fiction. Keep on thinking. Machistules is summoned to help overthrow the aliens. The evil queen of Samar, Samara, has made a pact with the Moon Men, hoping to be made queen of the world. Spoiler: she isn't.

The postives: Sergio Ciani makes a good Machistules. Anna Maria Polani is a very hot Agar (lousy name though) and in her scenes with Ciani I kinda get the feeling she's not acting when she's gazing adoringly at his oiled musculature. ;) The fight scenes are energetic. There's one with a tusked ape thing which is cool, though it won't make anyone forget Conan vs. Thak.

The rest is crap. The opening is squandered, and even at one hour twenty-six minutes it feels overlong. There's a sandstorm scene at the end that goes on forever with nothing coming from it. Apparently this scene spawned a MST3K meme, though I didn't know that before. In fact, MST3K would be the only thing to make this enjoyable.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:02 AM

The rest is crap. The opening is squandered, and even at one hour twenty-six minutes it feels overlong. There's a sandstorm scene at the end that goes on forever with nothing coming from it. Apparently this scene spawned a MST3K meme, though I didn't know that before. In fact, MST3K would be the only thing to make this enjoyable.


DEEP HURTING! DEEEEEP HURTING! It's one of my favorite MST episodes but yeah, I imagine it's a rough one without Joel and the 'Bots. The spike scene is pretty nifty where "Alan"/Sergio gets his bronzer rubbed off and he seems to enjoy throwing guys around, but otherwise it's pretty ponderous.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:59 PM

Mind you, it has the great line where the Moon Man warns of "The sinister influence of Uranus", so it's not a complete waste. :lol:
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

Mind you, it has the great line where the Moon Man warns of "The sinister influence of Uranus", so it's not a complete waste. :lol:


If you like that one, Herclues and the Captive Women has the classic "worship of Uranus".

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:18 PM

Interesting blog article on Machiste, the hero of many pepla:

http://singular--poi...te-in-hell.html

I'll get back to this soon. First I need to find some good pepla to wash the taste of sand out of my mouth. :o
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."


--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard