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#1 Evil Thoth-Amon

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 10:55 AM

OK guys, the movie opens in less than two months... and we DONT have any confirmation of one of most important Conan attributes: his crystal blue eyes. We only have ONE photograph. The trailers show Momoa with his normal eye color.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 06:31 PM

I thought that was a ‘given’, I’m sure they look blue in the trailer, not that you get any long lingering shots of JM.

The boys got the height, he’s an athletic 230+ lbs, he’s hair may not be as black as a ravens wing, but it’s very dark; it would be a shame if they didn’t tick the blue eyed box as well, as it’s such an easily solved issue.

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 06:49 PM

It is an easily solved issue indeed, they have said they would do it earlier - but given that his eyes are a most UNwelcome au nataurale brown in the trailers, I too would feel much better if we got final confirmation that the eyes will in fact be blue.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 07:21 AM

In fact his eyes are light green and not brown ;)
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:19 AM

I don't really care what colour his eyes are in real life, as long as they are blue on film!

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 08:04 PM

I don't really care what colour his eyes are in real life, as long as they are blue on film!


Yes, this is one of those small details that mean a lot to fans and wouldn't seem so hard to get right. I'm still holding out hope that they're still in the finishing touches in post production and that this is one of those touches, but at the end of the day its not going to sway my overall impression of the film one way or another. If the film turns out to be horrendus, then blue eyes won't be enough to save it. If it turns out to be awesome, then lack of blue eyes will be something I can overlook. I think we live in a different age than REH or Tolkien, where the issue of race (and distinct racial characteristics) are not nearly as important to people as they were then. I think you would have a hard time arguing to a layperson why blue eyes are so important.
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Posted 25 June 2011 - 09:29 PM

I agree, amster. However, considering Momoa's dark complexion and black hair, a pair of searing blue eyes would be aesthetically striking. Think of those early close-ups of Apache attired Paul Newman in "Hombre." Those eyes got your attention.
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Posted 27 June 2011 - 09:13 AM

I agree, amster. However, considering Momoa's dark complexion and black hair, a pair of searing blue eyes would be aesthetically striking. Think of those early close-ups of Apache attired Paul Newman in "Hombre." Those eyes got your attention.

Bingo! Think of all those old movies where blue-eyed caucasian actors in makeup used to play Arabs, Mongols, and Hindus. Blazing blue eyes in a brown face.
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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:25 PM

It would be very nice if in the actual film Momoa does have the icy blues. Still, if not, his natural hazel/greenish eyes should be satisfactory.

Edited by stonecold-mike, 27 June 2011 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 10:31 AM

Still, if not, his natural hazel/greenish eyes should be satisfactory.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 11:21 AM

It would be very nice if in the actual film Momoa does have the icy blues. Still, if not, his natural hazel/greenish eyes should be satisfactory.

No they wouldn't!

That's the complete wrong message to send the lurking powers that be, Conan MUST have blue eyes!

If Momoa delivers, and the movie all in all turns out better than we feared and leads to more REH like sequels, Momoa's natural eyes will forever be an irritant and annoyance.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 11:26 AM

Just seen the pic’s posted by BvTcH3r on ‘discussing the upcoming film’, and it’s obvious Nispel and co didn’t consider it important to give their Conan blue eyes. Shame considering Howard thought it important.

Jason certainly ticks most other boxes though.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 10:26 AM

It's been an absolute age since i last posted here folks, but i would just like to add my name to the fact that defacto, Conan needs blue eyes. It's part of his Cimmerian heritage, and something that makes him stand out in foreign lands. Can anyone imagine them changing Superman's eye colour in the comics? Of course not, it's a vital part of the character design. Blue eyes, Lionsgate! You SAID you would change them in post. Don't short-change us!

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 05:40 PM

I dunno. I'd trade his eye color for a good movie and a better sequel.
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 09:06 PM

Based on the latest pics, it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Cripes, Howard mentioned the blue eyes so many times, why not honour it. I hope they don't think the fact that we want this so bad has racial connotations but rather staying true to the source expectations. Lets have a little give and take with the fans. Lord knows we have been givin' a lot as fans.
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Posted 01 July 2011 - 09:38 PM

I dunno. I'd trade his eye color for a good movie and a better sequel.


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Posted 02 July 2011 - 08:43 AM

REH is not insisting on Conan’s "volcanic and smoldering" blue eyes in almost every story for nothing!
Eyes are the reflection of the soul. To me personally, considering Conan, they mean: controlled brutality, sharp and fast thinking in dangerous situations, the personification of cold steal and northern heritage, a frightening face in the middle of battle rage which greatly scares opponents, the triumph of rational reasoning over fear, passion and caution at the same time etc...long story short, blue eyes make the difference! And what "Norse Sage" said, not so long ago: with blue eyes JM IS Conan! Without them…well, at least for me, he could be anyone – from "Blongar – King of Barbarians" to "Ragnor – Blade Master".
I’m sure that no one will take that as racism.
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Posted 02 July 2011 - 09:10 AM

It would be so EASY! Why not do it?
"Did you deem yourself strong, because you were able to twist the heads off civilized folk, poor weaklings with muscles like rotten string? Hell! Break the neck of a wild Cimmerian bull before you call yourself strong. I did that, before I was a full-grown man...!" - Conan, in "Shadows in Zamboula", by Robert E. Howard
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
"I was," grunted [Conan]. "I was one of the horde that swarmed over the hills. I hadn't yet seen fifteen snows, but already my name was repeated about the council fires." - "Beyond the Black River", by Robert E. Howard

Read my Conan screenplays at The Scrolls of Ironhand (in particular my transcription of THE FROST GIANT'S DAUGHTER in Act II of "The Snow Devil") at
http://www.scrollsof...d.us/index.html or at
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 11:18 AM

Exatcly! It is easy as hell, takes only a short amount of time, and costs next to nothing in the grand scheme of things, yet will make Momoa's transformation into Conan complete.
So why on earth should they NOT do it?!?

I do not get why some people say that they'd prefer a good movie with sequels over blue eyes. This seriously baffles me.
Firstly, one does not preclude the other.
Secondly, no one has ever given us the option of either a good movie or blue eyes, so that entire line of rationalization leads nowhere.

The movie is what it is regardless of eyecolour. Adding blue eyes is not going to change anything other than removing the irritant that non blue eyes would be, and staying true to REH physical description of Conan. That's all the more important for sequels which may even be REH adaptations.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 04:07 PM

norse_sage: I think we can have both. There's no good reason why we can't, except perhaps because of the expense of changing the eye color of an actor who appears for most of the movie's running length. I was just saying, that if it somehow came down to choosing between the two, I'd prefer a good movie with a brown-eyed Conan over a crappy one with a blue-eyed Conan. Hopefully we will have blue eyes and a good movie. Come August, I'm pretty sure we'll have the blue eyes, at any rate.
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--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard