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[RobP]

So far Kortoso is the only one to reply that has seen an orb on a digital camera. Has anyone else? Please respond if you have.

All the time - especially with flash pictures (seems most ghost-hunter pics are taken at night or inside with flash). Dust is everywhere.

[Waldgeist]

My girlfriend is a hobby-photographer and those "orbs" are dust particle reflections. That's about it. You can provoke having them quite easily. Even the "positioning" near people is fully explainable. It's a matter of airflow and in a room, where there is no opened window, the person moving around constantly creates air-whirls around her. Those can attract dust particles and therefore you'll see those "orbs" in a meaningful way.

It's also not making a lot of sense to talk about "random positioning" of dust particles, because they can never be randomly distributed, but must follow air stream patterns. Those are highly structured and not at all random. If you for example activate a smoke machine in your living room, you'll see "meaningful" air stream patterns evolve and the smoke will paint very structured flow patterns. The same applies to dust particles, as they surf on air streams.

Now on to the "faces" and patterns that are visible around those "orbs". Slim particles, edges etc.. function as a lense. They bend light around them. So naturally will see all kinds of things, that are somewhere in the same proximity in blurred form in those particles, because they simply reflect and bend light around themselves. In addition you can see a pattern emerge when you take a very expensive lense + a full format high quality digital camera, those "orbs" tend to have less of a pattern and are much cleaner. So it's also a question of lense quality and lense pureness.

Over the course of human history one truth emerges: When in doubt, it's not god or magic, it's most likely you just don't understand it yet.

Cheers,
Waldgeist

Edited by Waldgeist, 14 July 2011 - 10:57 AM.

[THE KID]

So far Kortoso is the only one to reply that has seen an orb on a digital camera. Has anyone else? Please respond if you have.

All the time - especially with flash pictures (seems most ghost-hunter pics are taken at night or inside with flash). Dust is everywhere.

You're like a broken record. I'm asking for others who haven't commented on this thread yet. Would appreciate your coorperation.

[THE KID]

My girlfriend is a hobby-photographer and those "orbs" are dust particle reflections. That's about it. You can provoke having them quite easily. Even the "positioning" near people is fully explainable. It's a matter of airflow and in a room, where there is no opened window, the person moving around constantly creates air-whirls around her. Those can attract dust particles and therefore you'll see those "orbs" in a meaningful way.

It's also not making a lot of sense to talk about "random positioning" of dust particles, because they can never be randomly distributed, but must follow air stream patterns. Those are highly structured and not at all random. If you for example activate a smoke machine in your living room, you'll see "meaningful" air stream patterns evolve and the smoke will paint very structured flow patterns. The same applies to dust particles, as they surf on air streams.

Now on to the "faces" and patterns that are visible around those "orbs". Slim particles, edges etc.. function as a lense. They bend light around them. So naturally will see all kinds of things, that are somewhere in the same proximity in blurred form in those particles, because they simply reflect and bend light around themselves. In addition you can see a pattern emerge when you take a very expensive lense + a full format high quality digital camera, those "orbs" tend to have less of a pattern and are much cleaner. So it's also a question of lense quality and lense pureness.

Over the course of human history one truth emerges: When in doubt, it's not god or magic, it's most likely you just don't understand it yet.

Cheers,
Waldgeist

I appreciate your comments but don't agree with them.

On Page 108 in book: Quote "Unfortunately, even though the vast majority of orbs observed by people all over the world are real, this has no bearing on skeptics who continue with their argument--that because flash reflections at airborne particles resemble orbs, all such images must therefore be reflections at airborne particulates. It is of little avail to try to convince such critics otherwise, just as it was of little avail to convince the clerical echelons in the 16th century that the earth was revolving around the sun."Unquote

Cheers to you too. v/r Richard

If you've seen an orb in your digital photos I'd like to hear from you. I'm asking for folks that haven't replied yet for different perspectives. Thank you for your cooperation.

Edited by Richard, 14 July 2011 - 12:56 PM.

[sonny sixshooter]

Over the course of human history one truth emerges: When in doubt, it's not god or magic, it's most likely you just don't understand it yet.

Well friggin' put. There's a bit of truth it would do a lot of good for all the world to remember. Unfortunately, it is not likely that it is going to happen.

[Waldgeist]

My girlfriend is a hobby-photographer and those "orbs" are dust particle reflections. That's about it. You can provoke having them quite easily. Even the "positioning" near people is fully explainable. It's a matter of airflow and in a room, where there is no opened window, the person moving around constantly creates air-whirls around her. Those can attract dust particles and therefore you'll see those "orbs" in a meaningful way.

It's also not making a lot of sense to talk about "random positioning" of dust particles, because they can never be randomly distributed, but must follow air stream patterns. Those are highly structured and not at all random. If you for example activate a smoke machine in your living room, you'll see "meaningful" air stream patterns evolve and the smoke will paint very structured flow patterns. The same applies to dust particles, as they surf on air streams.

Now on to the "faces" and patterns that are visible around those "orbs". Slim particles, edges etc.. function as a lense. They bend light around them. So naturally will see all kinds of things, that are somewhere in the same proximity in blurred form in those particles, because they simply reflect and bend light around themselves. In addition you can see a pattern emerge when you take a very expensive lense + a full format high quality digital camera, those "orbs" tend to have less of a pattern and are much cleaner. So it's also a question of lense quality and lense pureness.

Over the course of human history one truth emerges: When in doubt, it's not god or magic, it's most likely you just don't understand it yet.

Cheers,
Waldgeist

I appreciate your comments but don't agree with them.

On Page 108 in book: Quote "Unfortunately, even though the vast majority of orbs observed by people all over the world are real, this has no bearing on skeptics who continue with their argument--that because flash reflections at airborne particles resemble orbs, all such images must therefore be reflections at airborne particulates. It is of little avail to try to convince such critics otherwise, just as it was of little avail to convince the clerical echelons in the 16th century that the earth was revolving around the sun."Unquote

Cheers to you too. v/r Richard

If you've seen an orb in your digital photos I'd like to hear from you. I'm asking for folks that haven't replied yet for different perspectives. Thank you for your cooperation.

This is not a matter of "taste" or opinion. ALL (100%) of the so called orbs I've observed on the websites that were linked in this thread are explainable through the physical explanations I've given. The faces, the patterns, the structures etc..

Sometimes a banana is really just a banana.

Edited by Waldgeist, 14 July 2011 - 03:06 PM.

[Kortoso]

So far Kortoso is the only one to reply that has seen an orb on a digital camera. Has anyone else? Please respond if you have.

I've already heard from some skeptics who I may not agree with but who's comments and opinions I value and respect and one comedian.

That's not accurate, Richard. I saw an orb WITHOUT a digital camera, just my "Mark One Eyeballs". I don't even know if such a phenomenon can be photographed at all.

[THE KID]

Ok - Kortoso my mistake. Very interesting. Can you explain in some detail what occured? Where you were, time of day/night, and where was the orb; in the sky, a house, forest, etc.

I've got evidence of orbs on my digital camera. My camera is a new Nikon CoolPix right out of the box. I never experienced this with a 35mm. As mentioned earlier this is subjective.

Edited by Richard, 14 July 2011 - 09:16 PM.

[Waldgeist]

I saw "Orbs" when I was a kid at night. I woke up and had an uneasy feeling. My sister was already awake and we both wanted to cross the house floor to my parents bedroom, to sleep with them, because we both felt uneasy for no apparent reason.

We then walked across the long housefloor and I looked sideways into the living room and saw two 30-50cm large white glowing balls/orbs floating in the center of the room. I froze in place and my sister wanted to drag me, but then she looked and saw the same. She froze too and I asked her what she is seeing and she described the same and then we both went running for my parents bedroom. Since then I never dared to leave my room anymore at night

We left the flat a year later and all our lives, the marriage of my parents improved a lot. I still have a dark feeling when I think back to that flat with all the nightmares I had back then. Most of those nightmares were about fleeing the place. I still can't explain that feeling or those two white shapes that my sister and I saw as clear and present as any other real object. It was no car light reflection or anything that could've caused it.

Not claiming anything, just reporting

Edited by Waldgeist, 14 July 2011 - 11:04 PM.

[Kortoso]

Ok - Kortoso my mistake. Very interesting. Can you explain in some detail what occured? Where you were, time of day/night, and where was the orb; in the sky, a house, forest, etc.

I've got evidence of orbs on my digital camera. My camera is a new Nikon CoolPix right out of the box. I never experienced this with a 35mm. As mentioned earlier this is subjective.

I was living at a friend's house temporarily. He and his wife took off one evening and I decided to stay home.

At one point that night, I had the feeling that someone was in the yard, so out I came, broadsword in my fist. Nobody seemed to be there, but I got a prickly sensation that I wasn't alone. Waldgeist, I am sure you recognize it.

Then I saw a light in the middle of the yard.

At first I thought it was a nearby streetlight, glimpsed through the trees. Until I walked around it! As the hairs of my head stood each upon it particular end, I quickly decided I should be indoors with all lights on.

My friend came home soon and announced cheerfully, "So, you've seen our ghost!"

To this day, I visit old houses and such and recognize that prickly feeling, and know a haunting when I feel it.

[ThuleanWarrior]

Over the course of human history one truth emerges: When in doubt, it's not god or magic, it's most likely you just don't understand it yet.

Well friggin' put. There's a bit of truth it would do a lot of good for all the world to remember. Unfortunately, it is not likely that it is going to happen.

This

[Morrigan]

It took me a while, but I remember reading an article about "The Poltergeist Machine" many years ago. Fascinating stuff, here's a relevant quote from the article below.

"The device can also induce unusual aurora-like lighting effects in mid-air.Once when Hutchison was filming in 1981, a sheet of iridescence suddenly descended between the camera and some of the hardware being used. It had a strange pinkish centre to it, and after it hovered there for a short period it vanished just as suddenly as it had appeared. Hutchison actually thought he had been hallucinating, but when the film was developed it transpired that there had actually been something objective there."


http://www.bibliotec...tralplane02.htm

[THE KID]

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't copy and paste someone elses comment that's a dig and throw one word in there. This isn't about who's right or wrong, taking sides, or getting the last word.

Thank you Kortoso and Morrigan for sharing. That's fascinating stuff.

I'd like others to share their comments who haven't yet but if it's like the one comment dig and getting the last word please move on as I have.

Refocus: The topic is Orbs - What are They - Seen In Digital Images?

Thank you, v/r Richard

Edited by Richard, 15 July 2011 - 12:42 PM.

[sonny sixshooter]

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't copy and paste someone elses comment that's a dig and throw one word in there. This isn't about who's right or wrong...

Actually, yes it is. In this case there is something that is right and something that isn't. Believing in dust on camera saving the world is not right.

Refocus: The topic is Orbs - What are They - Seen In Digital Images?

Dust

[RobP]

So far Kortoso is the only one to reply that has seen an orb on a digital camera. Has anyone else? Please respond if you have.

All the time - especially with flash pictures (seems most ghost-hunter pics are taken at night or inside with flash). Dust is everywhere.

You're like a broken record. I'm asking for others who haven't commented on this thread yet. Would appreciate your coorperation.

You asked if anyone else had seen an orb on their digital camera. I have. You're welcome.

Along with some other posters here I've had experiences that could not be easily explained by "conventional" means. However I think ascribing every mote of dust orb to a spiritual presence is pushing things a bit.

A while back there were a group of people who outed themselves as crop-circle makers in a particular area. Thing is even when they admitted this and showed how they had made those particular circles, there were still people who claimed that the work was actually done by aliens

[THE KID]

For the folks that were respectful and gave honest and insightul opionions (either way) thank you. For the comedians and ones who kept digging and being disrespectful I don't appreciate that.

I started this Topic and would like to end it.

No more comments please.

Edited by Richard, 15 July 2011 - 09:50 PM.

[THE KID]

Moderator Kortoso: Appreciate your help. Thank you. v/r Richard

Edited by Richard, 15 July 2011 - 09:45 PM.