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#1 amster

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:51 PM

Since the first teaser trailer is up, now is as good a time as any to start the thread.



I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.

I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:00 PM

I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.

I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Catwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.

I thought the "Rises" has more to do with Batman appearing to be a criminal at the end of The Dark Knight. "Rises" would be coming out of hiding and clearing his name.

I did wonder, too, about the broken back storyline - but that is a lot to fit in, if they use it. They'd need the whole successor story, and Wayne laid up in bed would make a dull movie. Unless, the ONLY thing they use is the injury and drop the storyline.

I am sure Bane will be forced perspective to size. Someone noted in this clip that Batman, for once, looks a little scared as Bane approaches.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:40 PM

and most important of all..nolan did succed in convincing the execs to NOT have this filmed or converted in 3-D...( at least from what i've read around on the net)

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:10 PM

Nolan is against the use of 3D. Despite that, I think Inception would have been really cool in 3D. It should be his choice, though, and I fully support him standing up to the studio.

I'm hoping he can beat the cinematic rule that the third movie about a superhero will be a letdown.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:18 AM

I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.


Someone must be kidding here! That will never work. However pretty she may be, there is not an ounce of Selena Kyle/ Catwoman stored in her.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:04 AM

Since the first teaser trailer is up, now is as good a time as any to start the thread.



I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.

I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.

nolans batman movies tend to be like an amalgamation of several storylines from the comics like year one or the long halloween. I dont think bane has to be 7 ft tall in this series to be dangerous either,who knows all i know is this trailer really did its job. i hope they use elements of legends of the dark knight:prey, but i doubt strange will be in it. however i did want to ask: in the one clip of bats backing off from bane did anyone notice the guy in the backround behind batman? he looks as if he has a rifle but hard to tell...black mask/ i doubt it but that is why i like the teaser, makes you guess anything. rises could be something transcendent like becoming the legend hes meant to be.who knows maybe bats is the one who dies in this, though i doubt warner bros would allow it.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:11 AM

I thought the "Rises" has more to do with Batman appearing to be a criminal at the end of The Dark Knight. "Rises" would be coming out of hiding and clearing his name.

I did wonder, too, about the broken back storyline - but that is a lot to fit in, if they use it. They'd need the whole successor story, and Wayne laid up in bed would make a dull movie. Unless, the ONLY thing they use is the injury and drop the storyline.


The "hero suffering a devestaing defeat and coming back" is a pretty common narrative device. Think Rocky 3. Defeat. Self-doubt. A glimmer of hope/newfound inspiration. The road to recovery. Rematch. A lot of this ground could be covered via montage. We need a montage. Montage! :lol:

I think with any Batman story featuring Bane, audiences are expecting him to trash the Batman in their first encounter, if not cripple him. I am. That's kind of the point in having the character to begin with.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:12 AM

I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.


Someone must be kidding here! That will never work. However pretty she may be, there is not an ounce of Selena Kyle/ Catwoman stored in her.


I tend to agree with you.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:02 AM

Well, Nolan was able to make Leonardo DiCaprio palatable, so who knows?
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:29 AM

I'm hoping he can beat the cinematic rule that the third movie about a superhero will be a letdown.


Amen to that.

As for Hathaway... could anyone honestly picture Heath Ledger as the Joker when the first casting announcements were made for The Dark Knight? We all know how this turned out... The casting of Hathaway has received an overwhelmingly positive reaction from Batman fans (and comic book fans in general), and Nolan has proven that he knows what he's doing.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:23 AM

We need a montage. Montage! :lol:


Mwahahaha! That's great!

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

looks tough, forgot Selina Kyle was even in this


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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:12 PM

And Joseph Gordon-Levitt from Third Rock, playing a baddy?

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:23 PM

And Joseph Gordon-Levitt from Third Rock, playing a baddy?


No he is a detective assigned under Commisoner Gordon who believes that Batman will return to save the city.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:51 PM

I saw this last night and sadly I found it rather bloated and unengaging. Matters were not helped by a typically flat performance from Christian Bale, and the only actor who brought any true emotion to the film was Sir Michael Caine who was wonderful. It had it’s moments but the film was ruined for me by heavy handed and distracting editing of the violence. Was this also true for the North American release?


I do appear to have developed a bit of a crush on Anne Hathaway though she seemed hopelessly miscast in this ambitious failure.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:18 AM

That's what I am saying, people are ranting and raving over the supporting characters. It would be better if The Batman were more engaging.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:10 AM

For the most part I loved it, but I need a second viewing to take in everything. Fortunately I rewatched the first two movies recently, so I caught the thematic lines running through all three movies.
"It is more than a mortal sea. Your hands are red with blood and you follow a red sea-path, yet the fault is not wholly with you. Almighty God, when will the reign of blood cease?"

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

I really enjoyed this film. They handled Bane much better than I expected. Some great twists and if you are a fan of the Batman Comic mythos there are a ton of cool things they put in here.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:01 PM

I enjoyed it. It's not quite as good as the other two, but I was completely satisfied. Hardy as Bane was riveting, especially considering I hate the character as portrayed elsewhere. Hathaway and Leavitt were both good. I wish Ledger had lived so the Scarecrow cameo could've instead been filled by the Joker - would have made those scenes.

A friend made the observation that the prison 'pit' from which broken or abandoned people are 'resurrected' was Nolan's version of a Lazarus Pit. Thought it was an interesting take.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:16 PM

Just saw it, loved it. Much better than part 2.

But why did Bane talk like Sean Connery? :ph34r: