The Dark Knight Rises
#1
Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:51 PM
I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.
I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.

Money and muscle, that's what I want; to be able to do any damned thing I want and get away with it. Money won't do that altogether, because if a man is a weakling, all the money in the world won't enable him to soak an enemy himself; on the other hand, unless he has money he may not be able to get away with it.
--Robert E. Howard to Harold Preece, ca. June 1928--
#2
Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:00 PM
I thought the "Rises" has more to do with Batman appearing to be a criminal at the end of The Dark Knight. "Rises" would be coming out of hiding and clearing his name.I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.
I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Catwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.
I did wonder, too, about the broken back storyline - but that is a lot to fit in, if they use it. They'd need the whole successor story, and Wayne laid up in bed would make a dull movie. Unless, the ONLY thing they use is the injury and drop the storyline.
I am sure Bane will be forced perspective to size. Someone noted in this clip that Batman, for once, looks a little scared as Bane approaches.
#3
Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:40 PM
#4
Posted 22 July 2011 - 08:10 PM
I'm hoping he can beat the cinematic rule that the third movie about a superhero will be a letdown.
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
#5
Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:18 AM
I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.
Someone must be kidding here! That will never work. However pretty she may be, there is not an ounce of Selena Kyle/ Catwoman stored in her.
#6
Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:04 AM
nolans batman movies tend to be like an amalgamation of several storylines from the comics like year one or the long halloween. I dont think bane has to be 7 ft tall in this series to be dangerous either,who knows all i know is this trailer really did its job. i hope they use elements of legends of the dark knight:prey, but i doubt strange will be in it. however i did want to ask: in the one clip of bats backing off from bane did anyone notice the guy in the backround behind batman? he looks as if he has a rifle but hard to tell...black mask/ i doubt it but that is why i like the teaser, makes you guess anything. rises could be something transcendent like becoming the legend hes meant to be.who knows maybe bats is the one who dies in this, though i doubt warner bros would allow it.Since the first teaser trailer is up, now is as good a time as any to start the thread.
I'm a huge fan of the Nolan films, and I consider Bane to be the ultimate Batman villian (sorry, Joker). He's every bit as cunning and intellegent, and more than a match for Batman physically. I'm not yet sold on Tom Hardy, as he's only about 5'8", whereas Bane is close to 7 feet tall and weighs about 400 pounds or more. I wonder if they're going to use similar photgraphic effects as Lord of the Rings to make Tom Hardy appear a lot bigger. I honestly don't know how else they could pull it off. I find the title intriguing. The "Rises" part implies that Batman has to make some sort of a comeback, and those familiar with the Knightfall story arc know that Bruce Wayne was soundly defeated by Bane and had to make a long and arduous recovery to once more take up the mantle of the Batman. I'm curious as to whether the infamous back-breaking scene will be recreated on film. Such a debilitating injury and subsequent comeback would be difficult to fit in a 2 1/2 hour movie. Plus there's the problem of explaining how such a paralyzing injury could be healed quickly. Maybe Lucious Fox and Wayne Enterprise's Research and Development branch will play a key role here.
I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.
#7
Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:11 AM
I thought the "Rises" has more to do with Batman appearing to be a criminal at the end of The Dark Knight. "Rises" would be coming out of hiding and clearing his name.
I did wonder, too, about the broken back storyline - but that is a lot to fit in, if they use it. They'd need the whole successor story, and Wayne laid up in bed would make a dull movie. Unless, the ONLY thing they use is the injury and drop the storyline.
The "hero suffering a devestaing defeat and coming back" is a pretty common narrative device. Think Rocky 3. Defeat. Self-doubt. A glimmer of hope/newfound inspiration. The road to recovery. Rematch. A lot of this ground could be covered via montage. We need a montage. Montage!
I think with any Batman story featuring Bane, audiences are expecting him to trash the Batman in their first encounter, if not cripple him. I am. That's kind of the point in having the character to begin with.

Money and muscle, that's what I want; to be able to do any damned thing I want and get away with it. Money won't do that altogether, because if a man is a weakling, all the money in the world won't enable him to soak an enemy himself; on the other hand, unless he has money he may not be able to get away with it.
--Robert E. Howard to Harold Preece, ca. June 1928--
#8
Posted 23 July 2011 - 01:12 AM
I'm not quite sold on Anne Hathaway as Selena Kyle/Cattwoman, either, as I don't much care for her, but I'm superemely confident in Nolan's abilities. He must know what he's doing.
Someone must be kidding here! That will never work. However pretty she may be, there is not an ounce of Selena Kyle/ Catwoman stored in her.
I tend to agree with you.

Money and muscle, that's what I want; to be able to do any damned thing I want and get away with it. Money won't do that altogether, because if a man is a weakling, all the money in the world won't enable him to soak an enemy himself; on the other hand, unless he has money he may not be able to get away with it.
--Robert E. Howard to Harold Preece, ca. June 1928--
#9
Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:02 AM
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
#10
Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:29 AM
I'm hoping he can beat the cinematic rule that the third movie about a superhero will be a letdown.
Amen to that.
As for Hathaway... could anyone honestly picture Heath Ledger as the Joker when the first casting announcements were made for The Dark Knight? We all know how this turned out... The casting of Hathaway has received an overwhelmingly positive reaction from Batman fans (and comic book fans in general), and Nolan has proven that he knows what he's doing.
#11
Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:23 AM
We need a montage. Montage!
Mwahahaha! That's great!
#12
Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:51 PM
#13
Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:12 PM
#14
Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:23 PM
And Joseph Gordon-Levitt from Third Rock, playing a baddy?
No he is a detective assigned under Commisoner Gordon who believes that Batman will return to save the city.
This film takes place 8 years after the events in the Dark Knight.
#15
Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:51 PM
I saw this last night and sadly I found it rather bloated and unengaging. Matters were not helped by a typically flat performance from Christian Bale, and the only actor who brought any true emotion to the film was Sir Michael Caine who was wonderful. It had it’s moments but the film was ruined for me by heavy handed and distracting editing of the violence. Was this also true for the North American release?
I do appear to have developed a bit of a crush on Anne Hathaway though she seemed hopelessly miscast in this ambitious failure.
#16
Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:18 AM
#17
Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:10 AM
Turlogh shook his head. "Not so long as the race lasts."
--- The Dark Man, by Robert E. Howard
#18
Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:44 PM
#19
Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:01 PM
A friend made the observation that the prison 'pit' from which broken or abandoned people are 'resurrected' was Nolan's version of a Lazarus Pit. Thought it was an interesting take.
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#20
Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:16 PM
But why did Bane talk like Sean Connery?











