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[monk]

well I don't want to belabor the point, but I mean there is plenty of room there to do just that but stick to the key points so to speak, that way you satisfy cromrades AND newcomers alike...

[godcipherdivine]

There are some stories not written by Howard that take place btwn the 2 chapters of his Queen of the Black Coast like Conan the Rebel and I was wondering if Wood would be adapting those as well. I never understood all the hype of Queen of the Black Coast because I feel it is so inferior to some of my more fav Conan tales so I'm looking forward to his run giving me a more appreciate look at it. One thing for sure is Cloonan's look for Belit is hypnotizing, it's always better when a woman draws a character like that (unless it's Frazetta, lol) The irony is that I remember really loving the Belit story in the Conan of Cimmeria collection so when I recently read it again in the Coming of Conan: The Cimmerian collection I was surprised of how underwhelming it was. I'm thinking maybe that is because de Camp and Carter added some things that were not in Howard's story. I would say the only flaw of issue one was Conan's detailing of the events that lead him to coming on the ship. I understand for adaptation changes have to be made but Howard's perspective on civilization relayed through his Conan character was the part I was looking forward to the most and I kind of would of liked that part to have been word for word, but I'm not mad.

[johnnypt]

There are some stories not written by Howard that take place btwn the 2 chapters of his Queen of the Black Coast like Conan the Rebel and I was wondering if Wood would be adapting those as well. I never understood all the hype of Queen of the Black Coast because I feel it is so inferior to some of my more fav Conan tales so I'm looking forward to his run giving me a more appreciate look at it. One thing for sure is Cloonan's look for Belit is hypnotizing, it's always better when a woman draws a character like that (unless it's Frazetta, lol) The irony is that I remember really loving the Belit story in the Conan of Cimmeria collection so when I recently read it again in the Coming of Conan: The Cimmerian collection I was surprised of how underwhelming it was. I'm thinking maybe that is because de Camp and Carter added some things that were not in Howard's story. I would say the only flaw of issue one was Conan's detailing of the events that lead him to coming on the ship. I understand for adaptation changes have to be made but Howard's perspective on civilization relayed through his Conan character was the part I was looking forward to the most and I kind of would of liked that part to have been word for word, but I'm not mad.

Brian's definitely going to be charting his own course when it comes to filling the gap. I'm hoping he uses some of those bits and pieces that were spread about the other stories about his time as a corsair in the south. As far as the original story goes, I don't think DeCamp did anything to it in the Lancers (& Aces) apart from maybe changing the spelling of Kush (someone can check me on this).

[amster]

There are some stories not written by Howard that take place btwn the 2 chapters of his Queen of the Black Coast like Conan the Rebel and I was wondering if Wood would be adapting those as well. I never understood all the hype of Queen of the Black Coast because I feel it is so inferior to some of my more fav Conan tales so I'm looking forward to his run giving me a more appreciate look at it. One thing for sure is Cloonan's look for Belit is hypnotizing, it's always better when a woman draws a character like that (unless it's Frazetta, lol) The irony is that I remember really loving the Belit story in the Conan of Cimmeria collection so when I recently read it again in the Coming of Conan: The Cimmerian collection I was surprised of how underwhelming it was. I'm thinking maybe that is because de Camp and Carter added some things that were not in Howard's story. I would say the only flaw of issue one was Conan's detailing of the events that lead him to coming on the ship. I understand for adaptation changes have to be made but Howard's perspective on civilization relayed through his Conan character was the part I was looking forward to the most and I kind of would of liked that part to have been word for word, but I'm not mad.

Brian's definitely going to be charting his own course when it comes to filling the gap. I'm hoping he uses some of those bits and pieces that were spread about the other stories about his time as a corsair in the south. As far as the original story goes, I don't think DeCamp did anything to it in the Lancers (& Aces) apart from maybe changing the spelling of Kush (someone can check me on this).

LSdC only made minor editorial changes to the stories that were already published (Cush/Kush, for example). It was the unpublished stories that he butchered. The version in the Lancers is the same as the version in the Del Reys.

[Dave the Rage]

There are some stories not written by Howard that take place btwn the 2 chapters of his Queen of the Black Coast like Conan the Rebel and I was wondering if Wood would be adapting those as well. I never understood all the hype of Queen of the Black Coast because I feel it is so inferior to some of my more fav Conan tales so I'm looking forward to his run giving me a more appreciate look at it. One thing for sure is Cloonan's look for Belit is hypnotizing, it's always better when a woman draws a character like that (unless it's Frazetta, lol) The irony is that I remember really loving the Belit story in the Conan of Cimmeria collection so when I recently read it again in the Coming of Conan: The Cimmerian collection I was surprised of how underwhelming it was. I'm thinking maybe that is because de Camp and Carter added some things that were not in Howard's story. I would say the only flaw of issue one was Conan's detailing of the events that lead him to coming on the ship. I understand for adaptation changes have to be made but Howard's perspective on civilization relayed through his Conan character was the part I was looking forward to the most and I kind of would of liked that part to have been word for word, but I'm not mad.

Conan the Rebel by Poul Anderson was a good read when I was 16 or older, I wonder what it would be like to read it again? My taste in wine has changed but I'm hoping my taste in books has not tbh, as I remember I enjoyed that book. I would love some new interesting arcs to the story, filling it with how they cemented their relationship in battle as if she was a Cimmerian mate etc, not a love story but a battle story with her at the helm as in the old Marvel arcs with him fighting against the odds in Turan I think and Amra etc. But of course none of the sillynish at times that marvel took liberties with.

[Taranaich]

There are some stories not written by Howard that take place btwn the 2 chapters of his Queen of the Black Coast like Conan the Rebel and I was wondering if Wood would be adapting those as well.

I really hope not, if only because I'd rather Wood just kept to his own takes rather than introducing other authors than Howard into the mix. It's also important, in my opinion, to keep the new series as separate from what came before as possible, simply for the own series' integrity as a stand-alone creation. It's bad enough The Hand of Nergal and The Hall of the Dead used the pastiche names without outright adapting prior stories.

It's for the same reason I hope they don't bring in Zula, the Beast-King of Abombi, and other creations from the Thomas run: not necessarily because I disliked them, but because Wood should be free to go his own way from Howard's story without the input of previous pasticheurs.

[Ironhand]

I agree. Wood should either stick to the original unaltered, or, since he didn't do that, create his own pastiche, based only on original Howard.

[amster]

Conan the Rebel by Poul Anderson was a good read when I was 16 or older, I wonder what it would be like to read it again?

I found it pretty annoying and not particularly Howardian.

[theagenes]

This Dan Panos (ian)? reminds Al Williamson, isn't it? and what about a parallel miniseries by Truman and Giorello (for example) adapting strictly the tale by Howard? at first I dind't like Gary Nord, very innovative after a time without reading Conan and being my favourite artists John Buscema and Alfredo Alcala amongst other classics, now I think he does a very well developed Conan but according to some people in the mail section of the comics he doesn't draw background details in cities, buildings...

I would say he's channeling Walt Simonson more than Al Williamson, but regardless, I agree with Zack and wouldn't mind seeing him get a crack at Queen.

You know I guess I have mixed feelings about the new feel and look Wood and Cloonan are bringing to the series, but I'm willing to be very forgiving when a title that was flirting with cancellation has doubled it's circulation. I'll just bite my purist tongue and enjoy the things about this series that I do like---and there are things I like.

[sat]

FYI, there's supposed to be a preview of CTB #3 (I thought this was to be Harren's 1st issue, but the credits on DH's site list it as Cloonan) at:
http://www.darkhorse...s/21-275?page=1

Can anyone see this? I'm just getting little red "x"s for all the interior pages on this, as well as most of the other new previews Dark Horse has just put up on their site.

[Taranaich]

I can see them. It looks pretty good. We get our first look at N'Yaga, which is neat: not my N'Yaga, but I knew it was him all the same. It looks like the theory of the corsairs only appearing demonic and being slowly humanized is panning out, since they look a lot more like human beings now.

[johnnypt]

FYI, there's supposed to be a preview of CTB #3 (I thought this was to be Harren's 1st issue, but the credits on DH's site list it as Cloonan) at:
http://www.darkhorse...s/21-275?page=1

Can anyone see this? I'm just getting little red "x"s for all the interior pages on this, as well as most of the other new previews Dark Horse has just put up on their site.

I'm getting the same x's, I have the problem on my work computer sometimes. Harren's doing #4-6

[Aquilonia]

Is there another link? Same here, x`s in all pages.
Dark Horse, fix it!!!!
This # 3 Carnevale cover is the most beautiful of them all up to this point. I like the colors and the fish all around, as if both Conan and Belit were under the sea... It is very romantic, in a good way.

Edited by Aquilonia, 27 March 2012 - 06:11 PM.

[Crom]

The link is working fine for me. I even disabled Javascript in case it was a Java problem, but made no difference.

Pages are so-so. I like the composition, though I'm still not a fan of the art itself. However, I'm coming around to the writing. And what's with Conan's overbite?

[Officer Aggro]

Looks good so far, but...no mating dance?! Or is it too soon?

[Dave the Rage]

Conan the Rebel by Poul Anderson was a good read when I was 16 or older, I wonder what it would be like to read it again?

I found it pretty annoying and not particularly Howardian.

At the time I was reading anything Hyborian and playing the RPG too. None better than the orig for sure, though there was worse than Anderson like the Jordan books where not that hot either.

FYI, there's supposed to be a preview of CTB #3 (I thought this was to be Harren's 1st issue, but the credits on DH's site list it as Cloonan) at:
http://www.darkhorse...s/21-275?page=1

Can anyone see this? I'm just getting little red "x"s for all the interior pages on this, as well as most of the other new previews Dark Horse has just put up on their site.

I can see it, and man them Cimmerian hills are superb, one thing she does bloody well at, actually makes me think of Nord's painted hills. Conan still has the mad (over bite) grin though lol, but liking the blue eyes.

Edited by Dave the Rage, 27 March 2012 - 10:56 PM.

[Kortoso]

The images are blocked by my system at work. It looks to be that comic book locator widget they have installed.

[johnnypt]

Looks good so far, but...no mating dance?! Or is it too soon?

It's still a little early, but it'll happen in this issue. Did anyone else see a very sly tribute to BWS's Cimmeria in those first three pages?

[Aquilonia]

I like the cimmerian hills too. What a surprise to see them right in the first pages. I would never expect those hills in the beginning of issue 3. They are cool, he, he.
Wood has been surprising me since # 1. He seems to have a lot of tricks and is willing to show them issue after issue.

[Dave the Rage]

Looks good so far, but...no mating dance?! Or is it too soon?

It's still a little early, but it'll happen in this issue. Did anyone else see a very sly tribute to BWS's Cimmeria in those first three pages?

I thought the dance began at the end of the 2nd book, and Cloonan may not have nailed Conan, but her Belit is dangerous and mesmerising indeed. Some heavy lip action in that drawing, draws you in indeed!

I cant see the BWS tribute tbh, I can only surmise that it is the brown fur skin the barb wears? If not is it in the text or the art?