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#1 thestone

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:40 AM

In Conan the Destroyer, did they ever specify the type of magic Queen Taramis had? Was it Witchcraft, Sorcery, or something else? I have only seen the movie, I never read the book.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:07 AM

There is no book. It's just a dumb movie.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:13 AM

The closest thing to a book for it was the novelization by Robert Jordan (twitch twitch.)

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:08 PM

What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:53 PM

What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.

Witchcraft is for girls and sorcery is for boys. Haven't you ever read Harry Potter??? :P

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:06 AM

What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.


http://www.thenewage...ft-and-sorcery/

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:33 AM


What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.


http://www.thenewage...ft-and-sorcery/


I believe I read once that Wiccans are known to have their book of shadows which is filled with their favorite spells

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:46 AM


What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.


http://www.thenewage...ft-and-sorcery/


Okay, then I would say that Taramis uses sorcery. Her own skills seem to be limited to simple hypnosis and sleep spells (pretty minor), her deity is "dead" without his horn attached, so he wouldn't be able to bestow power onto her, like Set for example, and she doesn't even perform the ritual herself at the end. Her high priest does. Tsotha Lanti and Solome clearly had innate sorcerous powers because of their bloodlines. I see no evidence of that in Taramis from the film.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:18 PM

What's the difference between Witchcraft and Sorcery? :huh: I wasn't aware there was one.

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The distinction is difficult and this New Age stuff hardly helps defining it. In modern Anglophone works of history and anthropology, the term Sorcery is usually associated with ritualistic magic, often of negative intent. Witchcraft was generally used for more simple practices, but it included potions, ointments and sometimes supernatural guidance (basically attributed to the Devil).

The whole thing is not very clear, since there is different terminology in other languages (and there were far fewer witchcraft trials in England compared with other countries.

In literature, of course, things are more lax and the same goes for movie scenarios. Taramis could be said to practice some minor witchcraft since sorcery is somewhat connected with more powerful spells.

In Howard's yarns almost all the magicians seem to have learnt magic from some source. Only Xaltotun seems to have a lomg sorcerous background. Even Tsotha and Salome had to study sorcery, hence the mention of it as well as spellbooks and scrolls.

Edited by constantine, 20 April 2012 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:49 PM

dude clearly she's a warlock

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 05:23 AM

dude clearly she's a warlock


Actually, despite widely believed false information, the word “Warlock” does NOT mean a male witch… A warlock just means an “oath breaker.”

Men and Women who practice Witchcraft are both called “Witches.” It just happens that the female Witches heavily outnumber the males.