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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:22 AM

I sometimes wonder that if the original Red Sonya of Rogatino knew about Red Sonja of Hyrkania, she might consider her with at least a little of the same loathing she views her real sister Roxelanna.

 

Perhaps momentarily before giving the Hyrkanian the beat down of her life. :)



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

Hope my comment didn't come across as too anti-Red Sonja of Hyrkania, Cromsblood.

 

I do think Roy Thomas is one of the best REH pastichists out there.

 

Just thought that whilst Sonya of Rogatino might respect Sonja of Hyrkania for her prowess courage, adventurousness, and kick-a$$ attitude, she'd definitely have a grudge against her for exploiting her femininity to the degree that she does. Imho, anyway.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:20 AM

Hope my comment didn't come across as too anti-Red Sonja of Hyrkania, Cromsblood.

 

Nah.  My thinking is that the Rogatinonian? is more strength and stamina and the Hyrkanian more lithe and tactful.  I'm taking Sonya of Rogatino for the win.


Edited by cromsblood, 26 April 2013 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:45 PM

Ah, well I may be a maudlin fool, but it brings a tear to my eye to hear you say it Cromsblood.

 

And just to reinforce your opinion...
 

Then with a yell and a rush someone was at his side and he heard the quick splintering of mail beneath the madly flailing strokes of a saber that flashed like silver lightning before his clearing sight. It was Red Sonya who had come to his aid, and her onslaught was no less terrible than that of a she-panther. Her strokes followed each other too quickly for the eye to follow; her blade was a blur of white fire, and men went down like ripe grain before the reaper.

 

Oaths flowed in a steady stream from Sonya’s red lips and she laughed wildly as her saber sang home and blood spurted along the edge.

 

Robert E Howard - Shadow of the Vulture

 

And then again...

 

“Who is she, in the devil’s name?” growled von Kalmbach.


“Red Sonya from Rogatino -- that’s all we know. Marches and fights like a man -- God knows why. Swears she’s sister to Roxelana, the Soldan’s favorite. If the Tatars who grabbed Roxelana that night had got Sonya, by Saint Piotr! Suleyman would have had a handful! Let her alone, sir brother; she’s a wildcat. Come and have a tankard of ale.”

 

Robert E Howard - Shadow of the Vulture.

 

Rides like a Cossak too!

 

I raise a tankard to ye Sir! :)


“I think the real reason so many youngsters are clamoring for freedom of some vague sort, is because of unrest and dissatisfaction with present conditions; I don't believe this machine age gives full satisfaction in a spiritual way, if the term may be allowed. ”

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“Do you try to write like the guys who write for the magazines you write for?” Clyde asked.

“Hell, no,” Bob was emphatic about that. “I let them try to write like me.”

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:19 AM

It has been a while since been here, got tied up with real life and events with family etc.

 

So have had no time to suggest ideas.  So I will pop up some stuff I was working on over the month or two, though you lot probably have seem them already, but just incase.  

 

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:27 PM

Very nice work, Dave!  I really like when you use a black nighttime sky with your bright colors, as it really makes everything pop.  


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:24 PM

Very nice work, Dave!  I really like when you use a black nighttime sky with your bright colors, as it really makes everything pop.  

Chrs, dark at the top and bright at the bottom, though it shows better in the B&W version. 


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Posted Yesterday, 08:03 AM

Hope my comment didn't come across as too anti-Red Sonja of Hyrkania, Cromsblood.

 

I do think Roy Thomas is one of the best REH pastichists out there.

 

Just thought that whilst Sonya of Rogatino might respect Sonja of Hyrkania for her prowess courage, adventurousness, and kick-a$$ attitude, she'd definitely have a grudge against her for exploiting her femininity to the degree that she does. Imho, anyway.

 

Roy was one of the great Howard pasticheurs, but his work on Sonja after her initial appearance was crap. Really, he should've left well enough alone. Still, one needs to take RT's lack of knowledge (at that time) and the era into consideration. A rare misstep on Thomas' part.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:46 PM

The basic idea of an Hyborian Age Sonya was quite good though. IMHO, it would have been better for Mr Thomas to have stuck more closely to REH's prototype, and had her as an Hyrkanian (with no supernatural origin story), who had ridden with the Kozaki and had a grudge against the Turanians.


“I think the real reason so many youngsters are clamoring for freedom of some vague sort, is because of unrest and dissatisfaction with present conditions; I don't believe this machine age gives full satisfaction in a spiritual way, if the term may be allowed. ”

Robert E Howard

“Do you try to write like the guys who write for the magazines you write for?” Clyde asked.

“Hell, no,” Bob was emphatic about that. “I let them try to write like me.”

From One Who Walked Alone by Novalyne Price Ellis

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Posted Yesterday, 03:52 PM

Hi Dave, glad you're back posting here. Hope I didn't derail the thread too much with my mumblings.

 

I like the way you use up all the space effectively even in your smaller frames.

 

Don't know why, but your starlit desert landscape behind Horhay in the top picture reminds me of REH's The Horror from the Mound.


“I think the real reason so many youngsters are clamoring for freedom of some vague sort, is because of unrest and dissatisfaction with present conditions; I don't believe this machine age gives full satisfaction in a spiritual way, if the term may be allowed. ”

Robert E Howard

“Do you try to write like the guys who write for the magazines you write for?” Clyde asked.

“Hell, no,” Bob was emphatic about that. “I let them try to write like me.”

From One Who Walked Alone by Novalyne Price Ellis

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Posted Yesterday, 04:34 PM

Hi Dave, glad you're back posting here. Hope I didn't derail the thread too much with my mumblings.

 

I like the way you use up all the space effectively even in your smaller frames.

 

Don't know why, but your starlit desert landscape behind Horhay in the top picture reminds me of REH's The Horror from the Mound.

I don't mind at all, I loved RT pastiche stuff better than any other writers at the time, though I was young and never knew of Sonya of the Vultures tbh, now I prefer that story to that of Thomas.  I would have loved though for Howard to have placed Sonya in Hyboria as a one off so we could have continued her reign there, keeping with his ideas than a created Red Sonja in Hyboria etc.  :(

 

I thin k it is my sketchy inks that capture the macabre type settings, hence I would love to do one of his horrors, maybe do a adaptation of one of his shorts.  Anyone any scripts lying around.  :)


?I do not accept as matter of belief certain things in this history, or rather fiction; for some things are diabolical superstitions, some are poetical inventions, some have the semblance of truth, some have not; and some are meant for the entertainment of fools.? Book of Leinster ? 12th century