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[gaijinn]

As the title states

Edited by gaijinn, 14 June 2012 - 04:03 AM.

[Ironhand]

Please state the unabridged title in full?

[Buxom Sorceress]

Give us your clear full statement, please.
[ dont type long titles to topics because there is a limit ]

What does
'Conan Gr. '
mean ?

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[gaijinn]

Apologies guys...it seems part of the text has been swallowed by unknown mischieff.

Ok my idea is why don't we do our own graphic novels as a protest against the way DH has been treating our favorite mayhem dealer?
Just an idea, folks.

[Kane]

Well, the first propblem is the fact we don't have the rights to produce any Conan comics.
I highly doubt that CPI or Dark Horse would take kindly to our infringing on their rights and property.
Can't speak for anyone else here, but I don't want to see my name listed in a lawsuit.

Also, while I have not been 100% pleased with the way Dark Horse has handled the title, I do believe that they are more faithful to the character then Marvel ever was.

[Buxom Sorceress]

Apologies guys...it seems part of the text has been swallowed by unknown mischieff.

Ok my idea is why don't we do our own graphic novels as a protest against the way DH has been treating our favorite mayhem dealer?
Just an idea, folks.

wouldn't even a short graphic novel [ comic ] be a tremendous huge ammount of work for an artist ?
and, if it were about Conan, then you would not own the rights, and therefore could not profit from it, elsewhere?

if i were an artist, i might create my own warrior character [ and other characters ] in my own ancient fantasy world.
He could be similar to Conan, but is not THE Conan of REH /Paradox.

Good luck with all your projects.

[wulfhere]

Straight adaptations of the public domain stories should be doable, but new stories would clearly fall afoul of trademark law. You'd have to be very careful about violating Paradox's trademarks. Even adapting public domain stories could bring a lawsuit and even if you win, would it be worthwhile?

Probably better to let Dark Horse run their title into the ground and hope that someone with respect for the character takes it up.

[gaijinn]

Straight adaptations of the public domain stories should be doable, but new stories would clearly fall afoul of trademark law. You'd have to be very careful about violating Paradox's trademarks. Even adapting public domain stories could bring a lawsuit and even if you win, would it be worthwhile?

Probably better to let Dark Horse run their title into the ground and hope that someone with respect for the character takes it up.

Straight adaptations of the public domain stories should be doable, but new stories would clearly fall afoul of trademark law. You'd have to be very careful about violating Paradox's trademarks. Even adapting public domain stories could bring a lawsuit and even if you win, would it be worthwhile?

Probably better to let Dark Horse run their title into the ground and hope that someone with respect for the character takes it up.

I was thinking more on the lines of Fanfiction, and public domain stories...maybe just a stupid crazy idea...but then again, doing movies is way harder and some of you are into that...

[Taranaich]

More comic adaptations is a fine idea: even if you love Wood, Cloonan & Harren's work, there's no reason such a great story should only have a few adaptations. We already have a brilliant and very faithful "Queen of the Black Coast" adaptation in Petri Hiltunen's phenomenal work, but as long as it's either non-profit work and/or made with the blessing of Paradox, I say the more the merrier. By thunder, if I wasn't up to my eyeballs in "80 Years of Conan" and the encyclopaedia, I'd be tempted to get started on my own comic adaptations.

[gaijinn]

More comic adaptations is a fine idea: even if you love Wood, Cloonan & Harren's work, there's no reason such a great story should only have a few adaptations. We already have a brilliant and very faithful "Queen of the Black Coast" adaptation in Petri Hiltunen's phenomenal work, but as long as it's either non-profit work and/or made with the blessing of Paradox, I say the more the merrier. By thunder, if I wasn't up to my eyeballs in "80 Years of Conan" and the encyclopaedia, I'd be tempted to get started on my own comic adaptations.

More comic adaptations is a fine idea: even if you love Wood, Cloonan & Harren's work, there's no reason such a great story should only have a few adaptations. We already have a brilliant and very faithful "Queen of the Black Coast" adaptation in Petri Hiltunen's phenomenal work, but as long as it's either non-profit work and/or made with the blessing of Paradox, I say the more the merrier. By thunder, if I wasn't up to my eyeballs in "80 Years of Conan" and the encyclopaedia, I'd be tempted to get started on my own comic adaptations.

That's what I'm talking about...Non-profit, just for the fun of it...I'm already working on an adaptation of "A Witch Shall Be Born"...Hope to bring you guys a few pages soon for critique...

[gaijinn]

An interesting artcle concerning copyrights REH works:
http://www.robert-e-...4rerevised.html

[Aza9]

An interesting artcle concerning copyrights REH works:
http://www.robert-e-...4rerevised.html

Here's some info from Jay@Paradox:
http://www.conan.com...?showtopic=6910

[RJMooreII]

"I highly doubt that CPI or Dark Horse would take kindly to our infringing on their rights and property government granted monopoly over something they had nothing to do with creating because men with guns say you can own abstract concepts"

Fixed that. One may as well charge a nickle every time you use the word 'their' because you didn't invent it, or say that you can't copy someone else's style of playing basketball. It's arbitrary, thuggish and based solely on the argument of all monopolists (urr, my service is essential, I need subsidies and legal protection to prevent other people from doing what they want and competing with me!) Shakespeare wrote without copyright, if Dark Horse can't they deserve to go bankrupt. Thus Spake Sariputta.

IP is a scam, though as a practical sentiment I somewhat agree; they have lawyers and fools and government thieves to support them so it might be unwise. But you could do it in China.

Edited by RJMooreII, 24 June 2012 - 07:54 AM.

[Dave the Rage]

Done it already with Ironhands script, just changed the name to avoid Conan name and also to not let people think I was dissing Conan too? Cronan the Dumb Barbarian.

CTDB

Just click page to goto next.

Also working with the bro to do a adaptation of REH Poem. Some shots found here. Canny take anymore Captain, the crystals are jamming!!

Animation 1 2 3 4 5

[LordYam]

While I like the idea of our graphic novles, Dark Horse isn't too bad. Not wholly faithful but pretty good compared to most.

[deuce]

Apologies guys...it seems part of the text has been swallowed by unknown mischieff.

Ok my idea is why don't we do our own graphic novels as a protest against the way DH has been treating our favorite mayhem dealer?
Just an idea, folks.

I've done my share of bitchin', but wouldn't it be FAR more constructive to buy/promote the Truman/Giorello adaptations of "Phoenix" and "Dragon"? I am. SALES MATTER. Little "non-profit" adaptations will sway nobody with any say. REWARD the accurate adaptations that are out there.

[Michael Miko]

Agreed Deuce and very well put. We need "actual" adaptation by writers faithful to the material and artists that can illustrated said material. Truman... Giorello.... Nord... Grindberg... Colak...Ribac....Busiek..Mignola...heck would love to see Alan Moore tackle something. Like Deuce said doing "non-profit" adaptations will accomplish nothing in regards to decision making with Dark Horse or CPI. The ones that have been done or videos have done nothing. Sales is what matter. If we don't buy the adaptations that are really good.. Why should they even try or even produce one? Money talks more than anything.

[Dave the Rage]

Though I agreed with this sentiment long ago, when I decided to buy 2 copies of Gio Trumans work to try and stop the lost readers, it seems we need to do this next time around as they are all gone now off to their own things. Though Woods title is still selling strong with 15 thousand state side, he is feeling the pinch of the Conan boards though:

Asked if there any projects he wished he'd passed on, Wood joked, "Well, after reading the Conan boards, maybe 'Conan!'"

As this topic suggested about doing REH Conan justice by doing our own, why do that and face copyright issues when you can do REH justice by doing some work on his lesser known heros like Steve Costigan, El Borak and others? Would it not be more feasible to focus on these and get their names out there?

Edited by Dave the Rage, 23 October 2012 - 01:40 PM.