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[RJMooreII]

Historical Warrior Illustrations
I think that is SO MUCH BETTER than superhero or pseudo-Grecian style of the comics. All the details of movement, harness and gear, etc. are just awesome. It can't take as much money or time to get one of these old military history illustrators to do a comic book than it would to get Alex Ross on one, and I think it would be SO much cooler to see a battlefield with real warriors fighting something that resembles an actual battle than the Batman-with-Swords style favored by Dark Horse.

A lot of fantasy covers do have armor and weapons and stuff but it's apparent the artist often doesn't know how they were used or that gigantic gilded hilts with dragons teeth are not very good for real weapons, as well as they might sell at Excalibur. And the plate armor is often drawn with little regard for how actual plate was shaped (this problem exists in video games too, Elder Scrolls have the most ridiculous looking weapons and armor I can't stand playing them anymore).

Bah, I wish cartoony stuff weren't so popular! More fantasy artists and writers need to be historians and like Bob and Lovecraft.

Edited by RJMooreII, 25 June 2012 - 11:43 AM.

[gaijinn]

Thaks for the heads-up brother...it's allways good to see some inspiring work. The only thing I found urealistic is the archer pulling the recurved bow string with thumb and forefinger...but, no one is perfect

[Fierro]

The only thing I found urealistic is the archer pulling the recurved bow string with thumb and forefinger...but, no one is perfect

Archer is using a thumbring. It's authentic.

[gaijinn]

The only thing I found urealistic is the archer pulling the recurved bow string with thumb and forefinger...but, no one is perfect

Archer is using a thumbring. It's authentic.

The only thing I found urealistic is the archer pulling the recurved bow string with thumb and forefinger...but, no one is perfect

Archer is using a thumbring. It's authentic.

Thanks and pardon my ignorance, I'll check it out. And my apologies to the artist.

[gaijinn]

Yeah...it's real...man, how ignorant of such simple stuff can one be?...everyday I learn something new...these are exciting times...

[deuce]

Historical Warrior Illustrations
I think that is SO MUCH BETTER than superhero or pseudo-Grecian style of the comics. All the details of movement, harness and gear, etc. are just awesome. It can't take as much money or time to get one of these old military history illustrators to do a comic book than it would to get Alex Ross on one, and I think it would be SO much cooler to see a battlefield with real warriors fighting something that resembles an actual battle than the Batman-with-Swords style favored by Dark Horse.

A lot of fantasy covers do have armor and weapons and stuff but it's apparent the artist often doesn't know how they were used or that gigantic gilded hilts with dragons teeth are not very good for real weapons, as well as they might sell at Excalibur. And the plate armor is often drawn with little regard for how actual plate was shaped (this problem exists in video games too, Elder Scrolls have the most ridiculous looking weapons and armor I can't stand playing them anymore).

Bah, I wish cartoony stuff weren't so popular! More fantasy artists and writers need to be historians and like Bob and Lovecraft.

People who wouldn't stand for a movie set in New York with all the wheels mounted ON TOP of the taxies seem to have NO problem enjoying art that depicts arms and armour that would get the wielder/wearer killed in short order.

That's a good link, but my favorite historical military artist is still the one and only Angus McBride:

http://en.wikipedia....i/Angus_McBride

Just do a "google images" on the guy. He's done everything.

[gaijinn]

Wouuuu...amazing stuff, man, thsi si one talented artist...thanks, man.

[gaijinn]

Here's a portuguese historical painter and illustrator...he has a huge ammount of work.



"The Battle of Aljubarrota" by Carlos Alberto Santos

Edited by gaijinn, 27 June 2012 - 09:14 AM.

[RJMooreII]

Angus McBride is great - I believe he's done a lot of work for Osprey? I swear, I wish Osprey books had a plotline, haha. I'd buy them all.

And, yes, as regards the audiences in general - I understand that I have very Aspergers taste in my artwork, haha. But stuff that makes sense and engages the mind is so much cooler than colors on a screen. If I wanted that I could just smoke some salvia and listen to the James Bond soundtrack, and it'd be a lot cheaper than going to see some craptastic film.

To me, a fantasy illustration that ignores the basic logic of armor is like 'science fiction' that ignores science - it isn't what it claims to be, it's just badly written. I remember some guy went off on a two page rant on StarDestroyer.net one time why sci-fi that ignores physics is just bad writing...I feel the same way about fantasy. If you're going to make changes to reality make them have an impact and a reason, or just don't do it. If you're deploying tropes just because they'll sell at an Albertsons check-out line you're a hack.

Carlos Alberto Santos does good work, too!

everyday I learn something new...these are exciting times...

That means you're not dead yet!

Edited by RJMooreII, 30 June 2012 - 09:54 AM.

[THE KID]

You really can't judge a book by it's cover. For $3.50 this is what you get:



I'd be buying the comic art off of your link all day:




Greg Land is one of my very favorite artists and series Sojourn.

[Almuric]

Yeah, I often use Osprey as historical reference. They put out some good stuff. They even have a book on Picts, which is one of the few books on Picts you can actually get your hands on.

[deuce]

Yeah, I often use Osprey as historical reference. They put out some good stuff. They even have a book on Picts, which is one of the few books on Picts you can actually get your hands on.

The art by Reynolds in that one ain't bad.

[deuce]

Here's a portuguese historical painter and illustrator...he has a huge ammount of work.



"The Battle of Aljubarrota" by Carlos Alberto Santos

I like what he does, but his palette is a little "washed out" for my taste.

[monk]

love this piece.