#1
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:11 AM
A sequel is foreshadowed after the credits.
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#2
Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:16 AM
#3
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:18 PM
The new actor nailed Spider-Man. Tobey was good, too, but this new guy somehow walked both sides of the line between wimp and hero--which is Spider-Man in my book.
The new production, CGI, effects, et. al. captured the way Spider-Man moves like never before.
I agree that Gwen's character is a stand-out.
But, what I liked best about the film is that they removed some of the silliness of the previous movies. The producers took the subject seriously, instead of adding in some silly aspect of the film. That used to happen a lot in super hero films. The older Batman films come to mind. But, it seems to be a dying trend lately. And, thank God for that.
I thought that certain aspects of Spider-Man's origin (being vague for spoiler reasons) were extremely well written into the somewhat new, somewhat old story.
All-in-all, I'd say it's the best Spidey film ever made.
#4
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:49 PM
I thought the film was better acted, better directed, better produced than the previous films. I thought it was more true to the source material (though, I should say that what I think of as the source material is what I read in comic books when I was in junior high).
The new actor nailed Spider-Man. Tobey was good, too, but this new guy somehow walked both sides of the line between wimp and hero--which is Spider-Man in my book.
The new production, CGI, effects, et. al. captured the way Spider-Man moves like never before.
I agree that Gwen's character is a stand-out.
But, what I liked best about the film is that they removed some of the silliness of the previous movies. The producers took the subject seriously, instead of adding in some silly aspect of the film. That used to happen a lot in super hero films. The older Batman films come to mind. But, it seems to be a dying trend lately. And, thank God for that.
I thought that certain aspects of Spider-Man's origin (being vague for spoiler reasons) were extremely well written into the somewhat new, somewhat old story.
All-in-all, I'd say it's the best Spidey film ever made.
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I'm glad to hear it turned out well. Still, I'm waiting for the day when ALL of the Marvel movies are actually made by Marvel Studios. They're just better, IMO.
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#5
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:57 PM
But this is a different Spiderman and it rocks! Very cool movie indeed!
#6
Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:34 PM
Edited by RJMooreII, 07 July 2012 - 10:34 PM.
#7
Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:48 PM
Raimi's Spider-Man was a love note to the thirty and fortysomethings in the crowd. It's the seventies Spider-Man, in every way.
This new Spider-Man movie takes much from The Ultimate Spider-Man, which restarted the Marvel Universe for this younger (20somethings and below) crowd. They are responding favorably to it, as well.
I think that if you mash both movies together, you get comic book Spidey in every way. Raimi had the emotional core, and this movie had all of the inherent web-shooter fu and wisecracks of the sixties Stan Lee/Steve Ditko era.
Spider-Man II is still my favorite comic book movie of all time, but this film is just as good as the first Spider-Man movie. It's just different, is all.
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#8
Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:29 PM
spidey II had one of the sickest super hero moments on film, then with III...wow what a deviation.
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#9
Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:41 PM
All the Raimi movies failed epically on characterization. Spider-Man may be psychologically emo, but he's a non-stop nervous nelly chatterbox. They didn't have the non-stop quipping and half-witticisms, so I thought it fell flat on it's face. Spider-Man only makes a couple of jokes in all the movies, if he were like the comic character 90% of the dialogue would have been his lines.Raimi's Spider-Man was a love note to the thirty and fortysomethings in the crowd. It's the seventies Spider-Man, in every way.
Much like the Faux X-Men, that was Faux Spider-Man. It's a movie about a guy with similar powers, not the comic book character. It was as much Spider-Man as the Arnie flick was Conan.
As far as the movies go, Avengers was the one to take the comic book characterizations and power levels seriously. Most of the other ones were just crappy sci-fi movies.
Of course, 9/10ths of everything is crap. Most writers/directors suck, always have, always will.
Edited by RJMooreII, 07 July 2012 - 11:43 PM.
#10
Posted 09 July 2012 - 12:53 AM
#11
Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:57 AM
I refuse to watch any more superhero movies that show origins. For Christ's sake, if you don't know where Spider-Man or Superman got their powers you need to not be seeing movies and are probably from space yourself.
Although the film is a reboot and an origin story, I was very impressed with how seemlessly Spidey's origin was worked into the movie. It's a great piece of writing.
It's a generational thing.
Raimi's Spider-Man was a love note to the thirty and fortysomethings in the crowd. It's the seventies Spider-Man, in every way.
I much prefer the new Spidey, and I'm 46.
#12
Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:31 PM
Stare into the face of Macho Madness and have your sanity blasted.Randy "Macho-Man" Savage ---- "Oh Yea!"
#14
Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:46 PM
I think Macho Man was featured in the first Raimi film.What's that got to do with Spiderman??????
Edited by thedarkman, 09 July 2012 - 10:44 PM.
#15
Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:07 PM
The announcer is Bruce Campell of The Evil Dead Series produced by none other than Sam Raimi producer of Spiderman!
Randy Savage wrestled as “The Spider” until March 1975 and then wrestled under his name of Randy Poffo. West Palm Beach Florida January 6 1975 – The Patriots defeated The Spider and Frank Hester in 17 minutes Fort Meyers Florida January 7 1975 – The Spider drew Eric Von Stroheim Fort Lauderdale Florida January 10 1975 – The Spider vs. Beauregard [...]
Edited by Richard, 09 July 2012 - 10:17 PM.
#16
Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:17 PM
#17
Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:23 PM
fun fact- when i was a kid- Spiderman was the only character i liked more than Conan! Now as an adult, it has been reversed, which is strange. But as we age, our interests change.
#18
Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:45 PM
In case no one knows....the web rumor is that columbia pictures (owned by sony) must make more movies or they lose the rights to Spiderman films. After the HUGE FINANCIAL success of the sam raimi triliogy, sony will obviously keep the movie franchise as long as possible. so prepare for a new trilogy/quadilogy all the way to 2018 of silver screen spidey action! (this is all rumors btw)
Same reason why Fox is thinking about doing new FF and Daredevil films. I think in the long run, Marvel will end up being able to exert more control over their characters, even if they're released through other companies. The Avengers (and the whole slate of related films) has been such a monster, Disney may be able to dangle crossovers as enducements. They might work out distribution deals like with Paramount. With the newfound clout they've gotten from Avengers, if they want Spidey or FF back bad enough, they'll find a way to get them. For the moment I think X-Men is safe at Fox (I wouldn't have said that before First Class).
Still haven't seen ASM, probably will do it on home video. I'm not really liking what I've heard about the origin changes, but it sounds like a basically enjoyable film.
Edited by johnnypt, 11 July 2012 - 03:55 AM.
#19
Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:44 PM
takes much for me to go. But, I love taking my son who is 7 for the kid films. That's still pretty fun because he enjoys everything.
As for ASM, I really didn't like the previews, new origins or any of the actors in the film. But they are good actors. I was the most excited about the Lizard-Man. Now that so many
Conan fans have recommended it I will probably go, but not with high hopes. As long as it's a nice long escape from reality I am good to go.
That being said, I really wish they'd skip the origins and just get into the meat of a new story (or old one). I think the best Spidey story ever told was 'Kraven's Last Hunt." I'd love to see that with someone like The Rock as Kraven. It would be awesome!
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#20
Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:30 AM
Felix The Cat

Extended Credits and Info
Writer: David Michelinie
Penciller (cover): Todd McFarlane
Colorist: Bob Sharen
Letterer: Rick Parker
Editor: Jim Salicrup
Orig. Published: May 10, 1988
Part of: Amazing Spider-Man (1963 - 1998)
Format: ComicSpider-Man
Edited by Richard, 11 July 2012 - 12:47 AM.











