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#1 Ironhand

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 06:01 AM

I liked the new Dredd, with Karl Urban, better than the old one with Stallone. KU had the Dredd mouth down perfect. But mainly I liked the story better; it was more like an authentic Dredd comic. The old Dredd movie was too creative: mysterious villain, Dredd's evil clone, Dredd saves the human race. The new movie is just gritty SF judges vs. perps, JUST like the comics.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:14 AM

I am eager to see this having been a fan of the character since he first appeared in issue 2 of 2000 AD. I thought the Stallone farrago was a travesty of justice and everything I hear and see regarding this film points to them having done it right this time. Dredd never took his helmet off.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:33 AM

Dredd never took his helmet off.

That is correct. He never even wiped dust off his goggles.

It was actually a classic cop-breaks-in-the-green-rookie flick.

Edited by Ironhand, 23 September 2012 - 06:39 AM.

"Did you deem yourself strong, because you were able to twist the heads off civilized folk, poor weaklings with muscles like rotten string? Hell! Break the neck of a wild Cimmerian bull before you call yourself strong. I did that, before I was a full-grown man...!" - Conan, in "Shadows in Zamboula", by Robert E. Howard
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:36 AM

It just occurred to me, the new Dredd flick is in one sense set up just like we would like to see Conan movies/tv episodes set up: the female character is definitely just there for one movie/episode. There is no ensemble. Only Dredd will continue from movie to movie or episode to episode. I maintain that if Dredd doesn't need an ensemble cast, then neither does Conan. So there! :)

Edited by Ironhand, 15 October 2012 - 07:36 AM.

"Did you deem yourself strong, because you were able to twist the heads off civilized folk, poor weaklings with muscles like rotten string? Hell! Break the neck of a wild Cimmerian bull before you call yourself strong. I did that, before I was a full-grown man...!" - Conan, in "Shadows in Zamboula", by Robert E. Howard
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
"I was," grunted [Conan]. "I was one of the horde that swarmed over the hills. I hadn't yet seen fifteen snows, but already my name was repeated about the council fires." - "Beyond the Black River", by Robert E. Howard

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:20 PM

Alas, unless DVD sales/rentals are phenomenal, we may not get another Dredd.

Seems to be a pattern this year: perfectly good movies flopping for no good reason. <_<
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:42 AM

Man, that would suck. I saw Dredd a few weeks ago and loved it. I wonder if we'll see start seeing a shift away from huge productions with massive budgets fail as they keep failing (John Carter, sadly). That could be a good thing for S&S and sci-fi films. Studios assigning smaller budgets are often more willing to experiment. They can afford target niche audiences.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 12:33 PM

Now that's the character I fell in love with way back in 1977. I just got back from seeing this tonight and had an awesome time.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 12:41 PM

Alas, unless DVD sales/rentals are phenomenal, we may not get another Dredd.

Seems to be a pattern this year: perfectly good movies flopping for no good reason. <_<


Yeah its like if you dont dumb it down and make for everyone it will flop. I dont care i enjoyed Dredd as action,SF film and i truly enjoyed as adaptation knowing how well Urban captured Dredd.

Also it must be a big american comics for it to be hit in US apparently. Box office is too much on actor fame too. Crap Stallone film will make more money.

Edited by Libaax, 28 October 2012 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:09 PM

This apparently needed to make $50 million in North America for a sequel to be green lit which seems highly unlikely at this point. At least I got to see Dredd on screen rather than be left with the memory of the abomination that was Stallone's film, which was a disaster as far as I am concerned.
I would have loved to have seen them explore the Dark Judges but guess that will never happen now.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:08 AM

I would have loved to have seen them explore the Dark Judges but guess that will never happen now.

My absolute top favorite memory is the confrontation between Judge Dredd and Judge Fear.

"Gaze upon the face of Fear!"
"Gaze upon the fist of Dredd!"

One of the best lines in the history of literature. Guaranteed to drive a theater audience berserk.

Edited by Ironhand, 29 October 2012 - 07:16 AM.

"Did you deem yourself strong, because you were able to twist the heads off civilized folk, poor weaklings with muscles like rotten string? Hell! Break the neck of a wild Cimmerian bull before you call yourself strong. I did that, before I was a full-grown man...!" - Conan, in "Shadows in Zamboula", by Robert E. Howard
"... you speak of Venarium familiarly. Perhaps you were there?"
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:33 AM

One of the best lines in the history of literature. Guaranteed to drive a theater audience berserk.


I agree and I very nearly posted a picture of that pivotal moment in comic history.

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I couldn't resist :)

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:53 PM

One of the best lines in the history of literature. Guaranteed to drive a theater audience berserk.


I agree and I very nearly posted a picture of that pivotal moment in comic history.

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I couldn't resist :)


Which story is that from? Before the film, there was only Garth Ennis,Morrison trades of Dredd comics in print it seemed. Not many classic Dredd stories volumes.

Edited by Libaax, 29 October 2012 - 03:54 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

Which story is that from? Before the film, there was only Garth Ennis,Morrison trades of Dredd comics in print it seemed. Not many classic Dredd stories volumes.


It is from a story called Judge Death Lives! which ran from prog 224-228. Judge Death who was previously encountered on his own returns with three more dark judges from another dimension where life is a crime. They are intent on judging Mega-City One and the sentence is death. Judge Anderson has a pivotal role in both stories and she first appeared in Judge Death which ran from prog 149-151. Art for both was by Brian Bolland.

Had Dredd been a success we would likely have seen the dark judges on screen.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:40 PM

Which story is that from? Before the film, there was only Garth Ennis,Morrison trades of Dredd comics in print it seemed. Not many classic Dredd stories volumes.



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Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:45 PM

I still haven't gotten around to seeing it, and probably won't: I'll have to wait for DVD, sadly, because everyone I've talked to who's seen it recommended it. Even the film connoisseurs who normally hate everything!

It's a shame, because it would've been cool seeing the new directions they'd go, and how they'd do a more realistic take on some favourites. I'd leave the Dark Judges for a third film, though. I sadly don't see America being made despite it being profound and outstandingly written, because I think people will severely miss the point of the story. The Cursed Earth is probably too expensive and "out-there", even if it includes one of my favourite Dredd characters. Hmm.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:55 PM

I mentally kick myself when I think about it but back in the late 70's I used to visit London yearly and made a pilgrimage to the original Forbidden Planet comic book store. They had original 2000AD art work for sale back then by the likes of Brian Bolland and Carlos Ezquerra and I didn't spend all my pocket money on it...Sigh.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

I saw this on Saturday finally. I really enjoyed it. Much closer to the OSM than the old movie. It was good but not great. It needed something to make it epic. I think it was almost too serious and needed a bit of the sarcasm of the 2000ad comic. Reminded me of Escape from NY a bit.
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

I really enjoyed Dredd. I rented it, and I would definately like to own a copy. I'm not an expert on Dredd. I've never read the comic, and I actually quite enjoyed Stallone's more campy version. "Let me crush him, Pa!!!" That really cracks me up. As for the new version, I really respect their decision not to ever show Dredd's face, and Karl Urban shows a wide range of emotion even under the helmet. He delivered a really fine performance. It's a shame it didn't do better at the box office. Sometimes films just don't do as well as they deserve to. There's been a lot of that going on lately.
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