Dave the Rage

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A fan made picture of Arnold as King.  Hope you guys can see it as I copied the link straight from facebook?

Actually read the comments if you can underneath, I am surprised at the people that want this to happen tbh.  

 

Ahh, this ain't nothing - lets keep posting and rolling A-man!  

 

One point I would like to make - how do you tell a Belit and Conan story without the backdrop of QoTBC?  It's the only story REH wrote with Belit and Conan and if a writer wants to explore the relationship (which raises the question is it worth exploring?  I say yes - look at Marvel's run and the mileage  they were able to extrapolate from REH's short story and the uniqueness of the character Belit and her relationship with Conan) then said writer HAS to use the QoTBC as the backdrop.  REH introduced them in QoTBC - hard to write a story without including the QoTBC as the backdrop to the characters of Conan and Belit.  

 

Wood is writing a story outside the QoTBC story (as REH wrote it)  but needed the story to introduce the characters.  I get some people can not get over the QoTBC title and that the story doesn't follow the QoTBC plotlines - but once you understand that Wood is not doing a true adaptation but needed the backdrop of QoTBC as bookends to his extrapolation then you can enjoy the tale -or not- for what it is.  Not an adaptation but an original pastiche that can only be compared to another pastiche.  Of course it's not Howard - no pastiche is and ALWAYS falls short.  It's also always subjective.  Obviously, most fans here don't like it - that is cool and I get it.  But, there is Howard and then there is pastiche - some feel writer X is a better pastiche writer than writer Y - but really it is subjective and open to debate.  One can find many issues with even the best pastiche - big doctrinal, geographical, philosophical, etc.  issues.  T-man (Al Harron) has many with even the best pastiche writers - while others put some pastiche up there with Howard they like them so much.  But every pastiche writer interjects their own uniqueness to the story - Wood is not the first writer to do so.  In other words, this whole debate may be new to some - but it is old hat for many of us.  We have been here before and understand that pastiche always falls short of Howard - ALWAYS!  

 

Sorry for the ramble. 

MArvel's run in between a few crap bits was pretty darned good story telling.  Conan was strong minded, focused and followed a well trod warrior code path.  All thanks to RT telling writing good pastiche.  Darks of Kush and the coastal raids with animals, beasts and dark magic at play was up there with the best writing in a long time.  Someday we will get that again, Wood's missed such an opportunity to do this.  

 

Roy Thomas did his homework.  He read every REH story he could get his hands on, even the non-Conan stories, and it shows.  The Hour of the Dragon is the only Conan story that actually has an episode that takes place in Stygia, and it's obvious that that Thomas read it because his QotBC story arc gives us a rich and very detailed look at Stygian civilization.  And that's just one detail.  Thomas was extremely detail oriented when it came to including all the details that were alluded to in other Conan stories, creating a rich tapestry from which to build a series on.  From Truman's run, it was quite obvious (to me anyway) that he was taking the exact same approach, and would have continued to do so if he were given the QotBC assignment.  With Wood, not so much.  Call it lazy, or maybe Wood simply doesn't want to know because he fears such knowledge will hamper him from telling the story that he wants to tell.  Either way, it's substandard in my opinion, and it's not Conan as far as I'm concerned.  I guess I'm just spoiled from Thomas and Truman and hold Conan to a higher standard than what Wood is willing to deliver.

Spot on imo. 

Ahh, this ain't nothing - lets keep posting and rolling A-man!  

 

One point I would like to make - how do you tell a Belit and Conan story without the backdrop of QoTBC?  It's the only story REH wrote with Belit and Conan and if a writer wants to explore the relationship (which raises the question is it worth exploring?  I say yes - look at Marvel's run and the mileage  they were able to extrapolate from REH's short story and the uniqueness of the character Belit and her relationship with Conan) then said writer HAS to use the QoTBC as the backdrop.  REH introduced them in QoTBC - hard to write a story without including the QoTBC as the backdrop to the characters of Conan and Belit.  

 

Wood is writing a story outside the QoTBC story (as REH wrote it)  but needed the story to introduce the characters.  I get some people can not get over the QoTBC title and that the story doesn't follow the QoTBC plotlines - but once you understand that Wood is not doing a true adaptation but needed the backdrop of QoTBC as bookends to his extrapolation then you can enjoy the tale -or not- for what it is.  Not an adaptation but an original pastiche that can only be compared to another pastiche.  Of course it's not Howard - no pastiche is and ALWAYS falls short.  It's also always subjective.  Obviously, most fans here don't like it - that is cool and I get it.  But, there is Howard and then there is pastiche - some feel writer X is a better pastiche writer than writer Y - but really it is subjective and open to debate.  One can find many issues with even the best pastiche - big doctrinal, geographical, philosophical, etc.  issues.  T-man (Al Harron) has many with even the best pastiche writers - while others put some pastiche up there with Howard they like them so much.  But every pastiche writer interjects their own uniqueness to the story - Wood is not the first writer to do so.  In other words, this whole debate may be new to some - but it is old hat for many of us.  We have been here before and understand that pastiche always falls short of Howard - ALWAYS!  

 

Sorry for the ramble. 

MArvel's run in between a few crap bits was pretty darned good story telling.  Conan was strong minded, focused and followed a well trod warrior code path.  All thanks to RT telling writing good pastiche.  Darks of Kush and the coastal raids with animals, beasts and dark magic at play was up there with the best writing in a long time.  Someday we will get that again, Wood's missed such an opportunity to do this.  

I would say from reading the story again tonight that Belit was far more in love with Conan than the other way round.  It seems to come across as a woman possessed almost with Conan's wild beauty and is driven almost reckless with her admiration for him, even going as far to upset the crew by taking a lover onto her ship and maybe upsetting the apple cart etc.  Conan though seems still levelled headed and yes emotional but coherent in his admiration for a woman warrior and skilled leader and trusted partner.  Woods seems to have reversed that a bit imo and added his sickly fancy to that of Conan has for Belit, like a lap dog moreso than a conditioned Alpha MAle Wolf marking his territory that is Belit?   The only time I seen a few changes in Woods direction on the love angle was when Conan had to enter the city on Woman on the Wall, he was acting out more so on his own steam and not taking Q from her, also when he went off in search of help for Belit as she lay dying, I got snippets of REH Conan there.   Though I missed a few other issues before that and an can't comment tbh, I can say that these were the only times I felt Conan was anything even resembling REH Conan to me.  Anyone else gauge any other times that Conan was not a sickly love child following orders?

More hype for Arnold than actual Conan on the table to eat from!

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